Posted on 08/10/2018 13:39
The very latest predictions paint a challenging future for us and our hobby. Some would suggest grim even whilst others suggest that with intervention and a change to our habits all is not lost. What changes to our leisure pursuits and lives do folk think will make that difference for our future generations?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45775309
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Posted on 08/10/2018 17:13
Contrary to the opinion of the BBC and other green zealots the phenomenon of global warming and cooling has gone on for millions of years, the industrial revolution and the internal combustion engine have only been around for a few hundred of those.
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Posted on 08/10/2018 16:00 by KennineNo we are not in peril. It's just that the entrepreneurs who manufacture and retail so called "Green Energy" products have been very clever and started a massive bandwagon. What we are seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to all the hype. ------ The earth has always fluctuated in temperature over millions of years, it's perfectly natural. Nothing to worry about.
K
Posted on 08/10/2018 14:03 by mickysfYes but should we just carry on as is then on that predicted course and just turn that blind eye. Should we let the likes of the 'USA' and China lead us to this future?
I do believe that rather than us making decisions about our habits and choices, these decisions will be made for us by others and these will radically change our 'ways'!
Posted on 08/10/2018 17:19
Incidentally, in reply to a post by Corners on the other thread now closed. The club are interested in the future of caravanning and tow cars and how the changing needs of EV owners will impact on the club's leisure industry. You may have noticed a thread started by the club concerning future tow car developments etc. 
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Posted on 08/10/2018 17:16 by HedgehurstWell written. With you here!
Posted on 08/10/2018 16:38 by Cornersteadywhy the oh dear HH? It sort of implies disapproval. While you may not agree with K's view I am (strangely here) defending K's right to state it and maybe you could come back with something better than oh dear?
Posted on 08/10/2018 17:26
My apologies for a quick groan - yes, you're right, it does deserve more debate I just hoped that we'd got beyond that stage.
K puts the point that the whole thing is cooked up by the green industry. Apart from the clearly observed data showing that the speed of change is now greater than before, that there are more irreversible changes approaching unless we make a difference, I'd comment that the "cooked up by the greens" thing is a point largely promoted by the oil industry. Compare the relative size of the financial clout of the oil industry to that of the green, and please remember that money notoriously wins shouting matches where popular media are concerned.
"Nothing to worry about, move along" smacks terribly of the tobacco industry telling us smoking was good for the lungs, or Monsanto/Bayer telling us that Roundup was perfectly safe. The first is now discredited, the second is well on the way to being discredited, and the oil industry in years to come is likely to be seen as in the same mould.
I hope this explains better.
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Posted on 08/10/2018 17:19 by brueIncidentally, in reply to a post by Corners on the other thread now closed. The club are interested in the future of caravanning and tow cars and how the changing needs of EV owners will impact on the club's leisure industry. You may have noticed a thread started by the club concerning future tow car developments etc.
Posted on 08/10/2018 17:26 by HedgehurstMy apologies for a quick groan - yes, you're right, it does deserve more debate
K puts the point that the whole thing is cooked up by the green industry. Apart from the clearly observed data showing that the speed of change is now greater than before, that there are more irreversible changes approaching unless we make a difference, I'd comment that the "cooked up by the greens" thing is a point largely promoted by the oil industry. Compare the relative size of the financial clout of the oil industry to that of the green, and please remember that money notoriously wins shouting matches where popular media are concerned.
"Nothing to worry about, move along" smacks terribly of the tobacco industry telling us smoking was good for the lungs, or Monsanto/Bayer telling us that Roundup was perfectly safe. The first is now discredited, the second is well on the way to being discredited, and the oil industry in years to come is likely to be seen as in the same mould.
I hope this explains better.
Posted on 08/10/2018 17:19 by brueIncidentally, in reply to a post by Corners on the other thread now closed. The club are interested in the future of caravanning and tow cars and how the changing needs of EV owners will impact on the club's leisure industry. You may have noticed a thread started by the club concerning future tow car developments etc.
Posted on 08/10/2018 17:30 by Cornersteadyindeed, it is a shame that you try and dictate what can and cannot be discussed?
I just hoped that we'd got beyond that stage.
According to who? you?
Posted on 08/10/2018 17:35
Indeed, there was a strong element of that in the OP of the other thread as well. It tends to be a red rag to a bull where I’m concerned.
Back to the topic. HH, I don’t believe there is one single person on this forum qualified to say which view is the correct one so I don’t appreciate amateurs, as we are, quoting statements as if they are the gospel truth. I treat all comments with scepticism whilst trying to keep an open mind.
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