The Planet in Peril

We've personally taken other steps in our daily lives, yes, but that isn't the concern of this discussion

I think you might still thinking this is the other (closed) thread you started? this one is,from the OP:

What changes to our leisure pursuits and lives do folk think will make that difference for our future generations?

you see the difference?

so all you have done is try and get the club involved? Not taken any shorter trips (in terms of distance or time) to change your habits? Or even stopped towing? Is it a case of do as I say but not as I do?

Not just fossil records, but sections of deposits in the land go back far enough to tell us about the cataclysm that wiped out the dinosaurs. Ice samples too, provide a compellingly believable records of events over a long period. Dr Keeling, out of personal curiosity, started taking atmospheric samples in the 1960’s, from his observatory on a Pacific mountain top. When combined with more recent samples initiated due to global warming fears, we have a record stretching back over half a century. That profile of increased CO2 shows a perfect match with industrial growth and temperature change, ice core samples correlate that increase, going back to the beginning of the industrial revolution. Other investigations support the relevance of that match. We can clearly see a contemporary rate of change in global temperatures which is way above that shown by rock, ice and fossil records. Our current situation is uniquely different to historical planetary temperature fluctuations. The luckless Chinese are cited as the villains of pollution, though their per capita emissions are similar to our own and their government is taking huge steps to manage it down. North America is by far and away the worst per capita polluter. Industrial and aviation pollution is hugely greater than anything generated through domestic and tow car use, though that’s no reason to stop trying to reduce it further. Global warming, brought about by atmospheric pollution is a very real problem. Even photographs of the earth, taken during the early days of space exploration, show very much clearer image of our planet, worsening over the decades. Several people have posted about about heavy pollution during the middle of the last century. This was a local effect, London, California etc, caused by atmospheric temperature inversions, which trapped pollutants causing smog etc. It’s quite different to today’s global problems.

Yup, it’s a +1 on that for me👍🏻😊

I'm not sure what you hope to gain by this diversion to the thread, Corners. Personal attacks on my current lifestyle, which is unknown to you, seem both unhelpful and irrelevant to the OP's post, which is about future generations.  Or maybe you know more about reincarnation than you let on.... 

 Meanwhile, jennyc, all strength to you for your brilliantly clear post.

+1 to 'jennyc' 👍

It happens, JV, but don’t worry about it.

Hi everyone, Can I please remind everyone of the community guidelines and to keep the discussion friendly and on track, otherwise we may need to temporarily suspend accounts to review as per my discussion the other day. Please keep the conversation constructive and refrain from arguments. Many thanks.  

I received an Email from P&O touting their cruises. It contained the usual photogenic couple with the Briksdal Glacier as a backdrop. I was there nine years ago and I can't believe how much it has receded in that time. Very scary.