Desecration of our war graves!

tigerfish replied on 18/11/2016 08:34

Posted on 18/11/2016 08:34

I was really upset to read yesterday in the Times, that it has just been discovered that a number of our sunken warships in the South Java sea have been totaly destroyed by illegal scrap metal "pirates".  The Exeter for example, - Hero of the Battle of the River Plate, but later sunk by the Japanese, has all but gone in a short period and several other ships plundered in the same fashion. A submarine has been completely dismantled.

All of those ships bore the last remains of many British sailors!

TF

volvoman9 replied on 18/11/2016 12:18

Posted on 18/11/2016 12:18

Well your dealing here with people who have no morals and unless these sites are guarded then sadly there,s very little that can be done.Out of interest what is the situation as regards ownership of such wrecks ??

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byron replied on 18/11/2016 12:31

Posted on 18/11/2016 12:31

From the Telegraph

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission said the wrecks were not official war graves and remained the property of the Crown. The dead are commemorated on Naval memorials in the UK.

tigerfish replied on 18/11/2016 12:37

Posted on 18/11/2016 12:37

Agreed but International Convention has always been that such wrecks are war graves, and as such have been left undisturbed. Until very recently this has been a situation respected by all countries.

TF

byron replied on 18/11/2016 12:41

Posted on 18/11/2016 12:41

I was answering the previous post as regards ownership, not making a point

Takethedogalong replied on 18/11/2016 14:14

Posted on 18/11/2016 14:14

When I first read about this, I had a mental image of these ships being way below the seas. However, just done a bit of research, and they are infact partially exposed in very shallow seas, only just off a beach. Very easily accessible, and no doubt a serious temptation for those wanting the scrap metal and other resaleable items. They don't appear to be designated war graves, so I wonder if all the bodies had long ago been removed? 

Bakers2 replied on 18/11/2016 16:11

Posted on 18/11/2016 16:11

It is a great shame that this can happen. I haven't investigated it so this a general comment. If they are close by countries with extreme poverty put yourself in their position, how would you deal with a resource that could potentially feed your children??  I also feel this when archeological digs find graves and remove the dead and their coffins (one in East Anglia at mo where caskets are hollowed out trees). Slightly different but still disturbing the dead and being disrespectful???

Rubytuesday replied on 18/11/2016 16:22

Posted on 18/11/2016 16:22

Seems that every generation born now are taught no values or respect for others dead or alive whatsoever, Sad

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