Desecration of our war graves!

tigerfish replied on 18/11/2016 08:34

Posted on 18/11/2016 08:34

I was really upset to read yesterday in the Times, that it has just been discovered that a number of our sunken warships in the South Java sea have been totaly destroyed by illegal scrap metal "pirates".  The Exeter for example, - Hero of the Battle of the River Plate, but later sunk by the Japanese, has all but gone in a short period and several other ships plundered in the same fashion. A submarine has been completely dismantled.

All of those ships bore the last remains of many British sailors!

TF

tigerfish replied on 20/11/2016 00:20

Posted on 20/11/2016 00:20

I too am very sorry that so many of our members are happy to wear the Poppy, but when they are really tested on the subject, accept that the desecration of our warships, containing as they do, the last remains of our brave serviceman, are acceptable facets of modern times!

Sorry but I will never accept that.  I realise that because it happened a long time ago, many of us no longer believe such sacrifices need appreciating- but I will continue to remind people. IMHO one negative aspect of buying and wearing of the poppy means that in the minds of some that absolves them from really understanding what happened.

TF

byron replied on 20/11/2016 08:24

Posted on 20/11/2016 08:24

I too am very sorry that so many of our members are happy to wear the Poppy, but when they are really tested on the subject, accept that the desecration of our warships, containing as they do, the last remains of our brave serviceman, are acceptable facets of modern times!

Sorry but I will never accept that.  I realise that because it happened a long time ago, many of us no longer believe such sacrifices need appreciating- but I will continue to remind people. IMHO one negative aspect of buying and wearing of the poppy means that in the minds of some that absolves them from really understanding what happened.

TF

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I do not think any of the members posting find the events acceptable including myself, but accept there is not much to be done about it

cyberyacht replied on 20/11/2016 08:26

Posted on 20/11/2016 08:26

We are facing this issue at our local parish church. There is a proposal to rebuild the south transept that was demolished in the 1600's, restoring the original footprint but this may disturb some graves that have been put on that space.

Metheven replied on 20/11/2016 16:58

Posted on 20/11/2016 16:58

I too am very sorry that so many of our members are happy to wear the Poppy, but when they are really tested on the subject, accept that the desecration of our warships, containing as they do, the last remains of our brave serviceman, are acceptable facets of modern times!

Sorry but I will never accept that.  I realise that because it happened a long time ago, many of us no longer believe such sacrifices need appreciating- but I will continue to remind people. IMHO one negative aspect of buying and wearing of the poppy means that in the minds of some that absolves them from really understanding what happened.

TF

 

You make too many accusations and too many assumptions regarding members TF and based only on 3 pages and at most without counting, 10 different member posts. 

Is your attitude to others something to do with previous employment!

tigerfish replied on 21/11/2016 08:48

Posted on 21/11/2016 08:48

Dave, I am sorry if I have given you a poor impression of the reasons for my very strong support for the RBL and our armed services.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with my previous occupation which is actually now over 18 years ago. And there is nothing more ex than an ex plod!  Actually my Police service was in itself an anomoly because my family have  had long tie ins with the armed services.

My son is an RAF Officer, and my brother was in the Royal Navy.   I hope that that might clarify my position a little.

TF 

ScreenName45C184A193 replied on 06/12/2016 00:33

Posted on 06/12/2016 00:33

Sadly, the same desecration happens right here in the UK. A few years ago, just for the value of the scrap metal. All the brass plaques were stolen from the war memorial at Orpington. At the Parish Churchyard, all the brass plaques from the garden of remembrance and any brass flower pots on graves were stolen.  I still cannot comprehend that anyone can be so evil. 

Tinwheeler replied on 06/12/2016 16:13

Posted on 06/12/2016 16:13

It happened at the War Memorial on Plymouth Hoe a few years ago as well. Several of the bronze plaques were stolen and found cut up in a scrap yard. Foreign nationals were charged as far as I can remember.

Bakers2 replied on 06/12/2016 16:20

Posted on 06/12/2016 16:20

Wasn't the handling of these items one of the reasons for ID requirement at Scrapyard's these days? Those that steal them are dreadful but those who accepted them as scrap were as bad or worse. One assumes they'd check what they were offered before they weighed it, otherwise the weight could be increased with non metal????

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