Desecration of our war graves!

tigerfish replied on 18/11/2016 08:34

Posted on 18/11/2016 08:34

I was really upset to read yesterday in the Times, that it has just been discovered that a number of our sunken warships in the South Java sea have been totaly destroyed by illegal scrap metal "pirates".  The Exeter for example, - Hero of the Battle of the River Plate, but later sunk by the Japanese, has all but gone in a short period and several other ships plundered in the same fashion. A submarine has been completely dismantled.

All of those ships bore the last remains of many British sailors!

TF

byron replied on 18/11/2016 16:44

Posted on 18/11/2016 16:44

Seems that every generation born now are taught no values or respect for others dead or alive whatsoever, Sad

Do you have any examples of a whole generation with no values or respect for others?

 

redface replied on 18/11/2016 18:51

Posted on 18/11/2016 18:51

The South Java Sea is not exactly UK territorial waters - so how can we expect others to honour the dead as we would?

I feel that opportunists will strike at every possibility and we have to be grateful that the War Graves Commission/ Admiralty, or who ever, protects such wrecks in our waters.

byron replied on 18/11/2016 22:43

Posted on 18/11/2016 22:43

The Indonesian government claim they have never been requested to protect the sites

jennyc replied on 19/11/2016 16:13

Posted on 19/11/2016 16:13

Seems that every generation born now are taught no values or respect for others dead or alive whatsoever, Sad

Do you have any examples of a whole generation with no values or respect for others?

 

Write your comments here...

Yes Howard Carter who desecrated Tutenkahmen's grave. And excavations of King Radwald's berial ship at Sutton Ho in Suffolk etc ...

byron replied on 19/11/2016 16:40

Posted on 19/11/2016 16:40

Seems that every generation born now are taught no values or respect for others dead or alive whatsoever, Sad

Do you have any examples of a whole generation with no values or respect for others?

 

Write your comments here...

Yes Howard Carter who desecrated Tutenkahmen's grave. And excavations of King Radwald's berial ship at Sutton Ho in Suffolk etc ...

Write your comments here...

I see your point but the poster was claiming that generations born now are taught no values, its a bit of an odd statement, I wonder if he/she was including their own family

jennyc replied on 19/11/2016 17:36

Posted on 19/11/2016 17:36

It's tricky isn't it. - does it depend on the nationality of the person comitting the desecration, or the nationality of the deceased, or the elapsed time since the good soul died? It seems that Richard 111 found himself under a car park in Leicester - was he left where he lay? No, he was moved to Leicester Cathedral. Might our war dead seafarers remains be removed to a war grave on land?

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 19/11/2016 19:15

Posted on 19/11/2016 19:15

It's tricky isn't it. - does it depend on the nationality of the person comitting the desecration, or the nationality of the deceased, or the elapsed time since the good soul died? It seems that Richard 111 found himself under a car park in Leicester - was he left where he lay? No, he was moved to Leicester Cathedral. Might our war dead seafarers remains be removed to a war grave on land?

JC, thought provoking post & the King Tut one.

Merve replied on 19/11/2016 21:57

Posted on 19/11/2016 21:57

I was really upset to read yesterday in the Times, that it has just been discovered that a number of our sunken warships in the South Java sea have been totaly destroyed by illegal scrap metal "pirates".  The Exeter for example, - Hero of the Battle of the River Plate, but later sunk by the Japanese, has all but gone in a short period and several other ships plundered in the same fashion. A submarine has been completely dismantled.

All of those ships bore the last remains of many British sailors!

TF

Write your comments here...im sorry too Brian but the world is a very sick place. I cant give my reasons as I would upset the politically correct on CT, but, the desecration of a war grave is unforgivable. 

byron replied on 19/11/2016 22:07

Posted on 19/11/2016 22:07

I was really upset to read yesterday in the Times, that it has just been discovered that a number of our sunken warships in the South Java sea have been totaly destroyed by illegal scrap metal "pirates".  The Exeter for example, - Hero of the Battle of the River Plate, but later sunk by the Japanese, has all but gone in a short period and several other ships plundered in the same fashion. A submarine has been completely dismantled.

All of those ships bore the last remains of many British sailors!

TF

Write your comments here...im sorry too Brian but the world is a very sick place. I cant give my reasons as I would upset the politically correct on CT, but, the desecration of a war grave is unforgivable. 

Write your comments here...

Fair comment but it was not a designated war grave, what do you mean by not wanting to upset the politically correct?

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