COVID - general discussion - Temp Locked
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brue replied on 31/12/2020 15:20
Tinwheeler replied on 31/12/2020 15:21
Posted on 31/12/2020 15:19 by TakethedogalongSorry, don’t understand what you are trying to say🤔
Rocky 2 buckets replied on 31/12/2020 15:25
Posted on 31/12/2020 11:43 by rutlandwarriorIts a fine line
Takethedogalong replied on 31/12/2020 15:29
replied on 31/12/2020 15:36
Posted on 31/12/2020 15:14 by TinwheelerYes, as I said, I acknowledged that.
Perhaps the following extracts will help.
Vax’d folk - "Getting vaccinated may not stop us carrying the disease...."
Non vax'd folk - "It certainly means those folk will spread the disease..."
And the definition of a carrier -An asymptomatic carrier (healthy carrier or just carrier) is a person or other organism that has become infected with a pathogen, but that displays no signs or symptoms. Although unaffected by the pathogen, carriers can transmit it to others or develop symptoms in later stages of the disease. Asymptomatic carriers play a critical role in the transmission of common infectious diseases such as typhoid, HIV, C. difficile, influenzas, cholera, tuberculosis and COVID-19.....
Posted on 31/12/2020 15:36
Vax’d folk - "Getting vaccinated may not stop us carrying the disease...."
I am optimistic that if a vaccinated person contracts the virus and recovers that with the antibodies working that any viral load will be low. Remains to be seen
Non vax'd folk - "It certainly means those folk will spread the disease..."
It depends on how they conduct themselves.
Personally I don't see it being reduced greatly until many age groups are vaccinated including the working age groups
Cornersteady replied on 31/12/2020 15:38
Posted on 31/12/2020 15:01 by TakethedogalongI am quite willing to swop the word “thick” for badly informed, lacking in education/research if that helps, but I stand by the selfish I am afraid. And if that constitutes a Dictatorship, then heaven help us is all I can say.
Taking a research based, persuasive, educated approach, encompassing as many folks as possible for the greater good of all, is simply common sense as far as I am concerned. If that means debunking conspiracy theories, getting religious and cultural leaders on board, using influential peer figures and groups to lead campaigns, doing something so that you will be there to see your loved ones grow up, help keep your older relatives and friends safe, then I fail to see how it can be anything less than a good thing.
Fear is something entirely different, and I can respect that, but again, education and a listening, reassuring approach might win over some doubters.
Bloody minded stands on principle, the “I’m not being told what to do” intransigence, that’s something else. Usually ends badly for someone.
You are either a willing part of the solution, or you are part of the problem. (Exempting of course all those who cannot for one reason or another medically be included) 🤷♀️
mylo replied on 31/12/2020 15:43
peedee replied on 31/12/2020 15:43
Posted on 31/12/2020 15:43
It is early days yet but there could be all sorts of ramifications for those not willing to be vaccinated. It’s not yet known whether getting the jab prevents you spreading the disease to others. If it does then there could well be travel restricitions placed on those who have not been vaccinated. As it is, that is already the case with some diseases, e.g. yellow fever. Some countries may demand proof of vaccination to allow entry and travel insurance companies may also make such demands when providing cover.
As it currently stands, because it is not known if the COVID jab prevents disease transmission, the objective of rolling out the jab to the population can only be to try and reduce the demands on the health service.
I don't really care if people do not want to be immunised and risk their own lives as long as I can have the jab and it works in protecting me from this dreadful disease.
peedee
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huskydog replied on 31/12/2020 15:47
Takethedogalong replied on 31/12/2020 15:51
Posted on 31/12/2020 15:25 by Rocky 2 buckets+1👍🏻. It’s your body, you choose. No one should be forced by any way or means whatsoever.
Posted on 31/12/2020 15:51
We don’t tend to disagree on much Rocky, and I don’t disagree that an individual can choose how to treat their own body/ health, with a few caveats......
fine if it doesn’t impact on anyone else, either through a health risk that might be transmitted, where they are breaking the law to feed an addiction, or huge sums of money are having to be diverted to someone’s welfare for something that could be prevented, or it impacts upon loved ones and dependents leaving them traumatised.
It’s like driving down the road on the wrong side by choice. It might get you killed, it might kill an innocent other. Making the wrong choice has implications not just for the chooser. So educating, persuading, helping individuals to choose wisely is best for the greater good.....🤔🙂
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