COVID - general discussion - Temp Locked

rutlandwarrior replied on 31/12/2020 11:17

Posted on 31/12/2020 10:53 by Takethedogalong

CG, ask yourself which nation is built upon individual rights and freedoms, and then consider just how well it is coping with astronomical case rates and the worst death rates in the whole World, by a very wide margin? You could throw in the right to bear arms as well and that would give you another deaths statistic.

It’s partly the fact that many UK individuals put their self importance and lack of restraint in front of considering others that we are in the bad situation we are at the moment. 

If this virus killed the thick and selfish it would seem if not kinder, then at least fairer. But it doesn’t, the vulnerable for one reason or another are the ones dying.

I don’t argue with your right not to want the vaccine. But I might just campaign to keep your choice away from others who are more sensible, or make you pay more for your insurance. (With exemptions for those who cannot have the vaccine for medical reasons)

Being on front line care for a month might focus a few more minds as well........

 

Posted on 31/12/2020 11:17

To put the record straight i never said I was against vaccination but that people have the freedom to choose to without being called thick or selfish. As someone on here has already mentioned there have been numerous televised debates about vaccination and quite a few people  on them opposed it so are they all thick and selfish NO. All I am saying is everyone has the right to their own opinion without being called names otherwise we have a dictatorship.

Fisherman replied on 31/12/2020 11:35

Posted on 31/12/2020 11:35

Surely in such dire circumstances world wide as we are now in the rights of the individual is secondary to the rights of the whole. 

replied on 31/12/2020 11:43

Posted on 31/12/2020 11:35 by Fisherman

Surely in such dire circumstances world wide as we are now in the rights of the individual is secondary to the rights of the whole. 

Posted on 31/12/2020 11:43

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JVB66 replied on 31/12/2020 12:11

Posted on 31/12/2020 11:35 by Fisherman

Surely in such dire circumstances world wide as we are now in the rights of the individual is secondary to the rights of the whole. 

Posted on 31/12/2020 12:11

The Spanish Gov announced? a couple of days ago ,that they were going to put any one who does not take up the offer of a vacine  against covid  ,that their names would be "put on the list"(not the Dads army one) and  made available to other nations ,

Freddy55 replied on 31/12/2020 12:13

Posted on 31/12/2020 11:04 by LLM

I think in time it will be suppressed to much the same level as the flu, but we will never eradicate it.  In due course we will find out if we will have to have a regular injection to remain protected or whether immunity will last. 

Posted on 31/12/2020 12:13

but we will never eradicate it.

Yes, I realise that.

replied on 31/12/2020 12:15

Posted on 31/12/2020 12:15

everyone has the right to their own opinion without being called names otherwise we have a dictatorship.

It is tending towards being akin to a dictatorship at present.

Rufs replied on 31/12/2020 12:16

Posted on 31/12/2020 12:11 by JVB66

The Spanish Gov announced? a couple of days ago ,that they were going to put any one who does not take up the offer of a vacine  against covid  ,that their names would be "put on the list"(not the Dads army one) and  made available to other nations ,

Posted on 31/12/2020 12:16

Well judging by the latest reports on the percentage of people not willing to have the vaccine in Spain in the short to medium term it will be a very big list, in any case the EU are dragging their heels when it comes to approving the Oxford vaccine, approval now not expected until February, so roll out in Spain is going to be slow anyway undecided

LLM replied on 31/12/2020 12:22

Posted on 31/12/2020 12:16 by Rufs

Well judging by the latest reports on the percentage of people not willing to have the vaccine in Spain in the short to medium term it will be a very big list, in any case the EU are dragging their heels when it comes to approving the Oxford vaccine, approval now not expected until February, so roll out in Spain is going to be slow anyway undecided

Posted on 31/12/2020 12:22

Maybe they will be looking very closely at how it works in the UK before making their decision.  

Rufs replied on 31/12/2020 12:26

Posted on 31/12/2020 12:22 by LLM

Maybe they will be looking very closely at how it works in the UK before making their decision.  

Posted on 31/12/2020 12:26

Oh! no doubt, and i bet Matt H is carrying lots of clean underwear in his ministerial bag and just hoping all goes to plan  laughinglaughinglaughing

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