Why no site shop ?

I've stayed at a CCC site and found I'd forgotten to bring the toilet flush fluid on going to the site office to get some found the shop shelves empty the warden told me the ccc had taken the shops over and were going to stock them themselves but so far it hadn't happened so it seems the ccc is going the same way.

Ray

As a fellow motorhomer I do understand the point you are making about not going off site. We reckon we can be food self sufficient for about four days in our current van (previous van had a lovely large fridge freezer). I will admit that it does influence where we stay. We would only stay somewhere like New England Bay for about 2/3 days if in fact we went there at all. I do like to be able to buy fresh milk, dislike UHT. Interestingly others have mentioned the C&CC providing shops but it does seem those shops will only sell "dry goods" so no milk or ice cream as I understand it so I am not sure how helpful that will be?

David

I wonder how many people actually stay on site 100% of the time for 3 or 4 days? If you have a caravan & car, then no problem. We have a 6.4 m PVC. If we are staying on a site for 4 nights, unusual and probably a CL, we are likely to be taking to van off site to visit somewhere, so fit in shopping with that. We can always shop when moving from one site to another. Many motorhomers seem to have bikes, so presumably a trip of a few miles is not a problem?

Gas for those with swappable cylinders I understand. I understand that those new to motorhoming/caravanning might forget the toilet fluid or loo rolls. If a site requires green liquid, a few spare bottles or packs is probably sensible. But don’t others leave their units primed and ready for off between trips? Ours is stocked up with essentials at the start of the season and we have a check list we use before we go off on a trip which includes things like fill up containers (pasta, rice) etc, check loo rolls.

Yes we have a carton of uht milk, we also take enough bread, frozen, for an about four days and a pack of bread mix to cook in the Remoska if on ehu. 

It’s all about being prepared. We have tiny fridges, and nothing more than an ice box in both our old outfits, and we are usually to be found out in the wilds on a CL or more remote site. Longlife emergency milk (keeps without a fridge for months), enough meals for at least four days, (meals made from scratch, not frozen), box of bio pods for loo, possibly some “bake at home bread” packs. Tinned staples. (We have a decent weight allowance to be able to take such things thankfully). Rare for us not to go out at least in three days, but we travel light and can pack up MH to roll in 10 minutes. Occasionally, at moment we take car, but only because I am commuting home. I think only thing we have bought from Club shops in past is an ice cream, we don’t rely on them.

We have a MH but are out most days on the bikes or walking (or both) and even in the van for NT locations etc....

as I've said in another thread, if you don't take the vehicle (car or MH) off site, don't/can't ride bikes or have a restricted walking range the choice of sites starts to shrink markedly.

Some will (have to?) rely on passing busses (not for us, despite bus passes) but now I see some are suggesting a lack of site shop would also influence site choice.

there won't be any suitable site choices left at this rate....👎🤷🏻‍♂️

Well its becoming increasingly tilted in favour of the Wardens .  I dont carry a smart phone phone. Just an ancient mobile so i wont be joining the 'fully Automatic checking in sevice ' either,  a smart phone or a laptop is a bit superflouous on most Ckub sites at present anyway. (Why end Air Angel cover BEFORE  its replacement was installed ??)

Ray

Ray, don’t blame the site staff. Most of the changes that are happening have little to do with decisions taken by site staff themselves, all they can do is to work and respond as fit to guidance and policy that is set by Club officers and Executive from HQ. Site staff have to deal daily with visitors who are not aware of a lot of the changes, and it’s unfair, and to be honest, misguided to blame them for decisions that they have possibly only been on the periphery of inputting towards, if at all. 

On site shops were always at the whim of do or don’t by Site Staff, but things are changing, their duties and work expectations are changing, and as a current Site Manager pointed out in a previous thread on this topic, there’s quite a lot more than Members think around “running a shop”.

So you're basing that on the fact that some wardens decide to actually take their days and time off rather than spend it stocking a shop? And deciding not to spend their money in setting it up in the first place, I don't see that as anything going in their favour.

As one doesn't need a smart phone for paying in advance or to use the new ANPR. If you're posting on here you have everything you need. In any case the vast majority of sites will still have wardens and payment in the office will be available.

I dont begrudge Wardens their time off I didnt say that. If there are not enough staff then the Club needs to employ more.  And site shops on remote sites are vergeing on being essential,  especially if you run out 0f gas halfway through a meal !  

Newspapers ordered and dropped off by a local newsagent are not a huge work burden on the Wardens  as is getting a local trader to drop off Milk to pre order ?  It just takes someone to CARE.

Its that that seems to be missing.from the present Regime running the club.  IMHO   Ray

I wonder how many would actually order milk or papers in advance. Would it be sufficient to make it worth while for a trader to deliver? Presumably the price would have to include the delivery charge.