Why no site shop ?

rayjsj replied on 12/07/2023 09:29

Posted on 12/07/2023 09:29

Stayed on two Cmc sites so far this Season, Lady Margrets Park in Chirk and New England Bay in Dumfries and Galloway   neither stocked  essentials any longer ?? Why is that ?   IE.  MILK, BREAD, EGGS,  coffee, tea, Ice Creams  etc.,   now in Chirks case shops are just about a Mile away,  a nuisance but 'do able'  at a push provided you are not disabled.  HOWEVER   at New England Bay  the nearest shop is in Drummore more than 5 miles away  really too far  and NO  public transport. 

Why are Wardens not bothering with selling essentials any more ?  It was scorching for 3 weeks at New England Bay lots of children all wanting ice creams ?? Let alone us Adults !  And you couldnt order newspapers for the following day  by paying in advance 

 Seems you dont realise what a treasure you have until you lose it.   That was the PREVIOUS  wardens at New England Bay     OH Yes    AND  they closed  half of the toilet facilities half way through our stay, not for repairs but to save money...we were told.

Chirk has a 'new' toilet block but have closed off the large Rallyfield/ dog excercise area. Is this a 'New Breed'  of Site Wardens  who are NOT customer oriented ?   Viewpoints please !

 

Moderator Edit:

As we already have a thread running on site shops, I'll lock this one and invite any further discussion on the original thread.

 

 

 

 

eurortraveller replied on 12/07/2023 16:52

Posted on 12/07/2023 16:52

Come to Cornwall, Ray. I can find you campsites with shops where you can buy milk, ice creams, local beers, windbreaks, buckets and spades, stuff from a freezer,  and fresh baked bread every morning.  People call them commercial  sites but to me they are catering for what their family visitors on holidays  ask for - not just providing for self contained Club members. Some even serve breakfast to people who arrive early.

brue replied on 12/07/2023 18:01

Posted on 12/07/2023 12:02 by Arch

I've stayed at a CCC site and found I'd forgotten to bring the toilet flush fluid on going to the site office to get some found the shop shelves empty the warden told me the ccc had taken the shops over and were going to stock them themselves but so far it hadn't happened so it seems the ccc is going the same way.

Posted on 12/07/2023 18:01

https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/campsites/facilities/shops/

This is what the C&CC are planning to do, remembering that tent campers etc may not always carry the same things as van owners I'm sure it will be helpful to all users. There are also CAMC sites with tent pitches.

It will be interesting to see how this works for both clubs, no shop or a basic shop?

One thing about the CAMC is that it used to be predictable and members like to find that sites make similar provisions in general.

eurortraveller replied on 12/07/2023 18:06

Posted on 12/07/2023 17:44 by JollyKernow

That could obviously occur at any site in any county ET, Cornwall's not that special.

JK

Posted on 12/07/2023 18:06

Jk, You sound a mite defensive that the sites where you work provide so little tor holidaymakers. 

Cornersteady replied on 12/07/2023 18:19

Posted on 12/07/2023 18:19

I can't recall in all my club site travels any standardisation or predictability at all of what site shops used to sell, well apart from Walls ice creams. I can't recall two sites selling the same things. It was always a wait and see approach. It was always important in my book to be prepared for nothing on sale.

Most had the basics, milk, butter, sliced bread, long lasting and dried foods like sugar, coffee, tea bags, juice, sometimes eggs. Others had various tins, cornflakes, others had long lasting bacon, sausages, usually from a local farm shop while others had freezers with more variety.

But I think they were not meant to be a long term shopping solution for those that never went off site (actually I don't think they existed or I never saw anyone like that apart from maybe Seacroft?) but rather for the day of arrival or when one ran out of something or a treat. From recall the food stuffs would cost far more than a local supermarket (not a criticism in any way) so it would be expensive to use all the time anyway. 

As said if having a well stocked always there shop is important then make sure you choose a site, club or not, carefully.  

Cornersteady replied on 12/07/2023 18:29

Posted on 12/07/2023 18:06 by eurortraveller

Jk, You sound a mite defensive that the sites where you work provide so little tor holidaymakers. 

Posted on 12/07/2023 18:29

Well I really can't see where you got any of that that from JK's reply?

But providing little other than great well kept sites and facilities, good quality sites, good advice and practical help when needed (what did JK say about help with putting up awnings?), friendly welcomes, local advice... and someone on duty 24/7 for emergencies.

I wouldn't class that as providing so little for club site users and far outweighs being able to buy a carton of milk. But again each to their own, find a site that gives what one considers to be important and then everyone is happy?  

davetommo replied on 12/07/2023 18:44

Posted on 12/07/2023 11:34 by rayjsj

Perhaps the reason for low occupancy is the fact that site has aquired a 'user unfriendly'  attitude to Club Members? 

This site is a particular favourite of ours  and yes it is a long way from our home......thats the point.

Its ok if you have a car and caravan, you can use the car for shopping  but  campervan and motorhome users , its pack up and drive 5 miles  into  Drummore  or into Stranraer.  Your ice cream will be melted by the time you get back to site  lol 

This particular site NEEDS a site shop selling food essentials.    By not selling any the Warden is causing inconvenience to the Members

And yes, I did complain to the Warden both about the loss of the 'well used' shop AND half of the toilet facilities during our stay.

Posted on 12/07/2023 18:44

Your ice cream will be melted by the time you get back to site lol

Does your Motorhome not have a freezer as part of the fridge.

davetommo replied on 12/07/2023 18:53

Posted on 12/07/2023 15:25 by rayjsj

I dont begrudge Wardens their time off I didnt say that. If there are not enough staff then the Club needs to employ more.  And site shops on remote sites are vergeing on being essential,  especially if you run out 0f gas halfway through a meal !  

Newspapers ordered and dropped off by a local newsagent are not a huge work burden on the Wardens  as is getting a local trader to drop off Milk to pre order ?  It just takes someone to CARE.

Its that that seems to be missing.from the present Regime running the club.  IMHO   Ray

  

Posted on 12/07/2023 18:53

Newspapers ordered and dropped off by a local newsagent are not a huge work burden on the Wardens

local newsagents are far and few between, Supermarkets have taken care of that.

mickysf replied on 12/07/2023 18:58

Posted on 12/07/2023 18:58

The definitive answer to the OPs question lies firmly with those at HQ in East Grinstead, not the staff on a specific site. Things have changed, why this is so is a sign of the times!

As davetommo eludes to that change is a result of our shopping behaviours!

davetommo replied on 12/07/2023 19:00

Posted on 12/07/2023 15:36 by JollyKernow

There's quite a lot than members think around running a site too Ttda.

JK

Posted on 12/07/2023 19:00

I don’t blame you JK if I was a site warden sorry manager I wouldn’t run a shop.

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