We need more basic facility sites

Sorry to disagree with you, any good data analyst will tell that historical data, i.e. occupancy figures, can only be used for trending and forecasting, it does not and can not tell you the views of the people who stayed.

I think what ET means that by looking at occupancy rates it can tell what type of site and location is popular with members. They are expressing their views by actually paying money, voting with their wheels. Surely that is the best way?

That’s possibly the view of someone who parks up a big vehicle and then wants public transport? Some of us actually use our outfits daily, or enjoy the fabulous walks and cycle rides such a location provides?

Just because it doesn’t meet a personal need shouldn’t be grounds for dismissing something someone else enjoys. I am happy to consider all the different kinds of locations the Club provides, rural, city, large, small. 

I don’t think that’s surprising JVB, it’s mid week and the first day of term, in this area at least.

Occupancy statistics are just basic data though Corners🙂 You need to have background information to fully comprehend what is going on, and what might be influencing those statistics. Folks will only spend money on what’s available. If you don’t provide something (no Eco pitches on 13 Yorkshire Club Sites) you cannot infer that the need isn’t there. It’s not provided, so no one has a choice🤷‍♀️

Thanks TW, I have never had chance to use Steamer, it closes too early in the season. Nevertheless it is the location which attracts for the majority not the facilities.

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We have been members since 1969 and have never had the sort of remarks that you had 

 in the early days after the second world war many department heads , area managers and site wardens were from the military , and at one point  the club was part owned by a caravan magazine 

That doesn't hold up in my view TTDA.

I'm sure there are those more basic Eco sites you talk of nearby every club site in Yorkshire?

Surely there are a multitude of CLs and/or other providers. I've just done a quick search of CLs in north Yorkshire alone and it's 15 pages long! They could spend their money there rather than simply choose a club site. The club will think we're filling up our Yorkshire site quite nicely, if people wanted something different they would go elsewhere wouldn't they? Why would they keep coming back and keep re-joining if it's not what they want?

Yet with all that choice people are still using club sites. I've said it before no one is forced to use a club site and there is most definitely plenty of choice, the club offers one thing but one doesn't have to choose it if it's not what you want. 

I’m weary of those who keep saying it’ a choice  of Club site or CL.  It isn’t.  The private sector is making lots of affordable provision. Usually farm based and family run. There are lots.

I offer Ashe Farm near Taunton as an example - family owned with 30 pitches on 6 acres. Well maintained and attractive - and within a few miles of the M5 so not at all remote..

Their price list has many options and is infinitely varied  - it starts at £8 a night for single occupancy without electricity.. Even as cheap as that some will still carp  - “but they charge a pound extra for a dog ….but it’s all grass,…but there’s  a toilet block and I don’t want one” ,  

And the owners openly say you can turn up without booking.. The choice of sites is actually better than it ever was.

..and this is the major gap in 'the clubs extensive offering'...the opportunity to be on the same area as others, using the same facilities but not paying for one of the most expensive elements of the price...the electricity.

having one (or two) non EHU pitches (often closed) but a nice price banner on the website showing they're on offer, doesn't really cut it.

JK suggests that non EHU pitches wouldn't get used and, presumably, all CAMC member want more and more facilities like service pitches...

that might be (have been) the way things were going but the last six months will have a been a hard slap in the touring budget for a great many....pensioners especially.

as touring numbers fail away, with Mr Average not able to pay £40 or more per night, sites (not just CAMC) will need to realign their product to customers' expectation and ability to pay.

with electricity costs being such an unprecedented driver, non facs and non EHU sites/pitches may well be the way to go...it's just so easy to remove a fuse from a bollard...

this gives a fair offering to all customers, otherwise it certainly will become the preserve of the Discovery & Buccaneer set😉