We need more basic facility sites

harryb replied on 29/08/2022 21:08

Posted on 29/08/2022 21:08

With the mention of the closure of High Onn and given that the club seem fully intent on pressing forward with the expansion to full facility sites by upgrading with serviced pitches, and different forms of self catering in glamping, yurts, pods and even airstream caravans etc it seems that those members who are on a more limited budget or even those who just prefer basics, are getting left behind. You might say we can use the cl system and that’s exactly what is happening. This is showing there is a demand by the number of fully booked cl’s. So why can’t the club come down to the more basic forms of caravanning and find and expand this type of site within the network. There are big gaps in the geographical area of the UK that could be opened up by developing this type of site. No doubt there would be an initial outlay but nowhere near the scale of that of a large scale flagship type site. The basic sites in the network now are priced at £17 (£18 from next year) and this comes in on a par with basic cl’s. There are thousands of members who would jump at the chance of this type of site being run under the club banner. The following counties are lacking in club sites, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Norfolk and Suffolk, amongst others, would benefit from this type of site

This is how caravan sites started off please don’t allow them to die.

 

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Takethedogalong replied on 31/08/2022 12:59

Posted on 31/08/2022 12:43 by JVB66

You really do talk from a different planet very often🤔

Where are young people mentioned?undecided

Posted on 31/08/2022 12:59

JV, myself and OH were the young people. Confronted with a different generation and mindset🤷‍♀️ Judgemental, stereotypical in their outlook?

DavidKlyne replied on 31/08/2022 13:06

Posted on 31/08/2022 11:51 by JVB66

We have been members since 1969 and have never had the sort of remarks that you had 

 in the early days after the second world war many department heads , area managers and site wardens were from the military , and at one point  the club was part owned by a caravan magazine 

 

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:06

JVB

Can't quite claim the length of service you have but I am relative newcomer at 41 years next monthwink I started out as a fresh faced 30 something with a wife and two young children. A 10 foot Ace Airstream caravan with no toilet, no fridge and no electrics. Certainly never felt the organisation to be elitist. Site staff over the years can vary as they do in any type of organisation but very rare over those 40 odd years to find someone less than polite or friendly. OK may have had the odd acerbic comment but often deserved! Have fond memories of the warden at the Newcastle Trax campsite as we arrived after heavy rain with a smile on his face asking us if we wanted a pitch with or without a swimming pool!!!

David

 

peedee replied on 31/08/2022 13:07

Posted on 31/08/2022 12:29 by DavidKlyne

Peedee

They do mention in the September magazine they had 76000 responses from site surveys which seems quite an impressive number. What we don't know is how many  survey requests actually sent out and not responded to?

David

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:07

True, I was going on a report issued by the Club (Leisure Vehicle Survey) where they had 40,000 responses of the 350,000 requested.

76,000 is a good number and statistically useful but against the total membership and the nights sold probably not? Were site surveys not issued to all who used them? I've certainly had them for the sites I have used.

Not had my September Mag yet, presume due to the postal strike.

peedee

Goldie146 replied on 31/08/2022 13:12

Posted on 31/08/2022 10:36 by Tinwheeler

Isn't debate the very basis of a discussion forum?

It would be a very bland place if no one replied to someone's point.

 

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:12

But, it's usuually the same users who join in the debate, and usually these users have well known ideas and preconceptions, so the discussion tends to go round and round in ever decreasing circles. 

Any new contributors have to dip their toes into what seems to be a pool of unfriendly sharks.

And the number of active users is miniscule compared to membership, and other social media. 

I admit, I'm more of a reader than poster, but tend to think "what's the point, I know what the response will be, I've heard it all before."

peedee replied on 31/08/2022 13:19

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:19

Not really. The installation cost will be set to be recouped over many years, so who pays the outstanding ballance if an EHU is taken out of use . . . ? Of course, everyone else!

No the cost of the infrasture can be built into the pitch price it would be just the cost of electricty which might have been supplied that would be discounted but it is most unlikely the Club will go down that route. What has happened to the meter trials that were being considered, still thinking about it I guess!

peedee

peedee replied on 31/08/2022 13:31

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:31

this gives a fair offering to all customers, otherwise it certainly will become the preserve of the Discovery & Buccaneer set😉

Steady on YT, that is one of my son's outfit and he does not use Club sites preferring CLs. He considers Club sites too expensive except for possibly the annual holiday.

peedee

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 31/08/2022 13:32

Posted on 31/08/2022 12:43 by JVB66

You really do talk from a different planet very often🤔

Where are young people mentioned?undecided

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:32

You mention them constantly-‘as it seems the generations after the ones who’s younger ones see mainly these days’, I ran it thru Google’s ancient speak App & it’s classed as-‘speech from days of yore regarding anyone younger than poster in disparaging terms’. Don’t blame the messenger JV Mr Google(& you) done it Guv.👍🏻😊. I’ll move on now-no more replies👍🏻

SteveL replied on 31/08/2022 13:37

Posted on 31/08/2022 12:21 by JVB66

 It did not in the past be as empty as this on the west side where we are there were this morning 23 LVs on and this side has over 90 pitches 

This is the time that the (Us included) oldies used to resurface  again 

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:37

Perhaps it will improve tomorrow when the price reduces a bit.

young thomas replied on 31/08/2022 13:44

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:19 by peedee

Not really. The installation cost will be set to be recouped over many years, so who pays the outstanding ballance if an EHU is taken out of use . . . ? Of course, everyone else!

No the cost of the infrasture can be built into the pitch price it would be just the cost of electricty which might have been supplied that would be discounted but it is most unlikely the Club will go down that route. What has happened to the meter trials that were being considered, still thinking about it I guess!

peedee

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:44

Agreed, and the write down period could be made as long as is necessary.

In 'many places' there are different ways of allowing the customer the choice not to take electric...

...locked bollards..

...removed (or even adjusted for amperage) breakers

...honesty...now there's a thing😉 (as ET mentioned upthread)

...meters, where no electric is actually used

the issue is whether the club wants to add this sort of pitch to its offering or not.

if it doesn't, and customers just get faced with costs rising ever faster due to the electric component, we might see some reducing the number of nights they take, others going elsewhere or even giving up.

either way, you'd think the club must be keeping a close eye on occupancy and be prepared to react if things fall away...

better still, preempt the situation and get some options on the table..

vbfg replied on 31/08/2022 13:47

Posted on 31/08/2022 10:36 by Tinwheeler

Isn't debate the very basis of a discussion forum?

It would be a very bland place if no one replied to someone's point.

 

Posted on 31/08/2022 13:47

There is a huge difference between sensible debate and very often, petty arguments, point scoreing and sometimes, totally uncalled for or frankly, insulting comments which occur far too frequently.

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