We need more basic facility sites

harryb replied on 29/08/2022 21:08

Posted on 29/08/2022 21:08

With the mention of the closure of High Onn and given that the club seem fully intent on pressing forward with the expansion to full facility sites by upgrading with serviced pitches, and different forms of self catering in glamping, yurts, pods and even airstream caravans etc it seems that those members who are on a more limited budget or even those who just prefer basics, are getting left behind. You might say we can use the cl system and that’s exactly what is happening. This is showing there is a demand by the number of fully booked cl’s. So why can’t the club come down to the more basic forms of caravanning and find and expand this type of site within the network. There are big gaps in the geographical area of the UK that could be opened up by developing this type of site. No doubt there would be an initial outlay but nowhere near the scale of that of a large scale flagship type site. The basic sites in the network now are priced at £17 (£18 from next year) and this comes in on a par with basic cl’s. There are thousands of members who would jump at the chance of this type of site being run under the club banner. The following counties are lacking in club sites, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Norfolk and Suffolk, amongst others, would benefit from this type of site

This is how caravan sites started off please don’t allow them to die.

 

Moderator comment: Locked pending review

Cornersteady replied on 31/08/2022 19:06

Posted on 31/08/2022 18:55 by harryb

Quite simply put and the last two paragraphs sum up what I've been saying. 

 

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:06

I would say not Harry, based on the number of likes you claimed:

It just goes to show then that basic and low cost sites are in demand.

But you have appeared to dismiss all the posts that are not in your favour, have you heard their voices? Or did you even acknowledge them in any way? That their view was just as valid as yours perhaps?

KjellNN replied on 31/08/2022 19:14

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:14

I think those who want sites with everything provided are already being well catered for, they have nothing to complain about.

moulesy replied on 31/08/2022 19:18

Posted on 31/08/2022 18:37 by Tammygirl
Content has been removed.

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:18

Fair enough, as long as everyone, ("ALL of us") are afforded the same courtesy. smile

Tinwheeler replied on 31/08/2022 19:24

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:24

"I agree with you that these sites are wanted by the members, OK not all of the membership but not all of the membership want SPs on sites but the club still install them."

I think this demonstrates that the club is providing a variety of 'site experiences' so that there is something for everyone.

One can only assume that they have established the proportion of non fac sites or SPs needed based on their own research and records of booking and occupancy which is likely to be more comprehensive than the views of the few of us posting here.

For instance, I really like the Stover non fac site which I've found to often be quiet and under occupied, especially in July and August. It could be said that the number of unsold pitch nights points to low demand and I can see why the club would be reluctant to provide more such sites if they are under-utilised. It’s a case of balancing supply and demand and, clearly, the club does not see things the same way as those people asking for more non fac sites. I’m not saying the club has it right or wrong but putting forward a reasoning for why things might be the way they are.

Tinwheeler replied on 31/08/2022 19:27

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:14 by KjellNN

I think those who want sites with everything provided are already being well catered for, they have nothing to complain about.

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:27

Are they complaining, Kj? I thought this thread was about the provision of more basic sites.🤷🏻‍♂️

Cornersteady replied on 31/08/2022 19:33

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:33

...but not all of the membership want SPs on sites but the club still install them...

But at best it's 30% of pitches are SP on sites that have them, and while the club does install them there is no need at all to book one and pay the extra £5 unless you want to, but of course they do go quicker and are often fully used.  

Tammygirl replied on 31/08/2022 19:35

Posted on 31/08/2022 18:52 by Cornersteady

Are both those sites what Harry has in mind?

I though it was basic sites like High Onn all in for £17,  or even without EHU, the two sites you mention are more than that and the only difference is that they are club sites without facilities? In fact EH is all HS and has SP as well. DM is all HS, is that what you call basic?

If that what Harry wants there are plenty of these sites already there?

Btw Englewaite Hall comes in today at over your limit you stated?

And of course it would be almost full over the summer that proves nothing, especially this summer when other sites were actually full, but there is plenty of pitches available till June next year while some sites with facilities and SP are already showing quite full over September and for Easter. 

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:35

I think Harry has answered your first question. 😊

EH was used in the middle of June and was well below my £30 threshold. So not the height of summer. 

DM was used in August and also below £30, we could have used any of the sites in the same area (lakes) ALL had availability but we like the peace and quiet if DM. 

 

Cornersteady replied on 31/08/2022 19:38

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:35 by Tammygirl

I think Harry has answered your first question. 😊

EH was used in the middle of June and was well below my £30 threshold. So not the height of summer. 

DM was used in August and also below £30, we could have used any of the sites in the same area (lakes) ALL had availability but we like the peace and quiet if DM. 

 

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:38

£30 threshold? where did that come from, you said it was £20?

Thank you it's nice to know others think £30+ is no longer VFM.

Yes £20 is my current limit but it has to have facilities or be in great location

Or do you have differing thresholds for summer and off peak? Also £30 is quite close to £30+ isn't it? A little confusing I must admit

Anyway no matter really and no need to answer TG as I've said many times what you consider the limit is is totally up to you, I'm not concerned as you said about mesmile

Takethedogalong replied on 31/08/2022 19:40

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:40

The Club has all sorts of anomalies with its basic provision. Not all are £17 a night sites, Marazion has always been a tiny bit more, even though it’s all grass, with no facilities, that’s possibly it’s location down in Cornwall. But I class anything without a loo block as basic. Even if it has a few serviced pitches, or hook ups. That’s basic to me.

I am trying to think of all that have gone in last few years. 

huskydog replied on 31/08/2022 19:42

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:33 by Cornersteady

...but not all of the membership want SPs on sites but the club still install them...

But at best it's 30% of pitches are SP on sites that have them, and while the club does install them there is no need at all to book one and pay the extra £5 unless you want to, but of course they do go quicker and are often fully used.  

Posted on 31/08/2022 19:42

But it would be interesting to the percentage of members who book them purely to secure a hardstanding, if there was a pitch surface type option would they have just chosen a standard hardstanding, I have booked a H/S pitch just to make sure we didn’t end up on a grass pitch and didn’t even use the tap or drain ! 

This topic has been locked, no new replies can be added.

near Malvern Hills Club Campsite Member photo by Andrew Cole

Book a late escape

There's still availability at many popular UK Club campsites - find your perfect pitch today for a last minute trip!

Book now
Woman sitting in camping chair by Wastwater in the Lake District with her two dogs and picnic blanket

Follow us on Facebook

Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for latest news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers.

Photo of Wast Water, Lake District by Sue Peace
Visit Facebook