We need more basic facility sites

harryb replied on 29/08/2022 21:08

Posted on 29/08/2022 21:08

With the mention of the closure of High Onn and given that the club seem fully intent on pressing forward with the expansion to full facility sites by upgrading with serviced pitches, and different forms of self catering in glamping, yurts, pods and even airstream caravans etc it seems that those members who are on a more limited budget or even those who just prefer basics, are getting left behind. You might say we can use the cl system and that’s exactly what is happening. This is showing there is a demand by the number of fully booked cl’s. So why can’t the club come down to the more basic forms of caravanning and find and expand this type of site within the network. There are big gaps in the geographical area of the UK that could be opened up by developing this type of site. No doubt there would be an initial outlay but nowhere near the scale of that of a large scale flagship type site. The basic sites in the network now are priced at £17 (£18 from next year) and this comes in on a par with basic cl’s. There are thousands of members who would jump at the chance of this type of site being run under the club banner. The following counties are lacking in club sites, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Norfolk and Suffolk, amongst others, would benefit from this type of site

This is how caravan sites started off please don’t allow them to die.

 

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Tinwheeler replied on 31/08/2022 17:35

Posted on 31/08/2022 17:27 by moulesy

Possibly, but that's just speculation isn't it, assuming these sites would be well used. I was really hoping for something more definite. And, although CLs are, apparently, being fully used, is that because more of them are providing "facilities"?

Again, just posing the question.

Posted on 31/08/2022 17:35

And could it be that their prices are rising, as discussed in another thread, because the owners are providing more facilities? 

More facilities = more customers but also = higher costs? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Despite that equation, they seem to be providing what many folk want.

Takethedogalong replied on 31/08/2022 17:38

Posted on 31/08/2022 17:38

To M😁, I’d hazard a guess and say it’s a bumper time at the moment for CLs, of all kinds. Touring generally is booming still, there are some CLs in stunning locations that warrant a price to match, even if they don’t offer much in the way of facilities. Likewise, there are some beautifully presented CLs, with more than basic facilities, that give more exclusivity and VFM than any Club Site, even if in the £25-30 range. A lot of CLs use something else, such as pods, shepherds huts, B&B, cottages to give even more options for non touring family and friends. We are paying around £5 a night more for a CL at the moment, but this doesn’t equate to the hike in electrical prices, as some are non hook up. It’s just “market forces” at work. £8 for a no hook up two years ago, same site, no hook up is now £13, and you will be lucky to get a pitch it’s that busy!

JVB66 replied on 31/08/2022 17:40

Posted on 31/08/2022 17:27 by moulesy

Possibly, but that's just speculation isn't it, assuming these sites would be well used. I was really hoping for something more definite. And, although CLs are, apparently, being fully used, is that because more of them are providing "facilities"?

Again, just posing the question.

Posted on 31/08/2022 17:40

It as most Hospitality venues would depend on land prices and the area that it is set up I would hopefully? think the estates department at EGH would look at where to put one🤔

Takethedogalong replied on 31/08/2022 17:43

Posted on 31/08/2022 17:31 by moulesy

"The Club doesn’t have to buy land and build from new though M to pay lip service to budget touring."

Ah, yes, I can see that - but it's not quite what Harry was asking for in the OP is it?

Posted on 31/08/2022 17:43

Agree, I was thinking across a couple of threads talking about prices, hook ups, basic sites. Sorry😁

Tammygirl replied on 31/08/2022 18:18

Posted on 31/08/2022 16:31 by harryb

My post was saying that people appeared in agreement and I was pleased with that response.

Stamford was a bit of a favourite being so close. 

I don't think there is anything to differ about I don't know where the land will come from either but the club no doubt have a department to look into that. That is their job not the members.

 

Posted on 31/08/2022 18:18

We have used 2 non facility sites this summer. 

Englethwaite Hall and Dockray Meadow. Both are a bit of a drive on narrow roads. Both of them were almost full on the nights we stayed and on both occasions it was mid week, not the busy weekends. 

I agree with you that these sites are wanted by the members, OK not all of the membership but not all of the membership want SPs on sites but the club still install them. 

The club has a big membership of varying ages, some want one thing while others want something completely different. We ALL have the right to make our voices heard.  

Cornersteady replied on 31/08/2022 18:52

Posted on 31/08/2022 18:18 by Tammygirl

We have used 2 non facility sites this summer. 

Englethwaite Hall and Dockray Meadow. Both are a bit of a drive on narrow roads. Both of them were almost full on the nights we stayed and on both occasions it was mid week, not the busy weekends. 

I agree with you that these sites are wanted by the members, OK not all of the membership but not all of the membership want SPs on sites but the club still install them. 

The club has a big membership of varying ages, some want one thing while others want something completely different. We ALL have the right to make our voices heard.  

Posted on 31/08/2022 18:52

Are both those sites what Harry has in mind?

I though it was basic sites like High Onn all in for £17,  or even without EHU, the two sites you mention are more than that and the only difference is that they are club sites without facilities? In fact EH is all HS and has SP as well. DM is all HS, is that what you call basic?

If that what Harry wants there are plenty of these sites already there?

Btw Englewaite Hall comes in today at over your limit you stated?

And of course it would be almost full over the summer that proves nothing, especially this summer when other sites were actually full, but there is plenty of pitches available till June next year while some sites with facilities and SP are already showing quite full over September and for Easter. 

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harryb replied on 31/08/2022 18:55

Posted on 31/08/2022 18:18 by Tammygirl

We have used 2 non facility sites this summer. 

Englethwaite Hall and Dockray Meadow. Both are a bit of a drive on narrow roads. Both of them were almost full on the nights we stayed and on both occasions it was mid week, not the busy weekends. 

I agree with you that these sites are wanted by the members, OK not all of the membership but not all of the membership want SPs on sites but the club still install them. 

The club has a big membership of varying ages, some want one thing while others want something completely different. We ALL have the right to make our voices heard.  

Posted on 31/08/2022 18:55

Quite simply put and the last two paragraphs sum up what I've been saying. 

 

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