Steamer Quay refurb removal of non EHU pitches

Hja replied on 20/12/2022 21:41

Posted on 20/12/2022 21:41

Just had my copy of the December magazine and noticed that the economy pitches are to be removed at Steamer Quay as part of the refurbishment.  As I understand it, these are the non-EHU pitches.  Isnt this somewhat short sighted in the current climate?  Surely more will be using off grid as a way of saving money?  We certainly will be next year.  Maybe there is some special issue at this site?  I havnt stayed there, just noticed it in the magazine. 

 

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SteveL replied on 23/12/2022 21:18

Posted on 23/12/2022 21:18

But listen why not reply to the questions I asked? How will metering and entry barriers reduce costs?

In the scenario I suggested above, metering wouldn’t but intelligent barriers would mean the site could be run as non facility in the winter months with minimal manager input. Perhaps they could employ someone local to sort out any problems and for cleaning / checking service points. The site could then perhaps run at a profit, even with reduced numbers.

Cornersteady replied on 23/12/2022 21:29

Posted on 23/12/2022 21:18 by SteveL

But listen why not reply to the questions I asked? How will metering and entry barriers reduce costs?

In the scenario I suggested above, metering wouldn’t but intelligent barriers would mean the site could be run as non facility in the winter months with minimal manager input. Perhaps they could employ someone local to sort out any problems and for cleaning / checking service points. The site could then perhaps run at a profit, even with reduced numbers.

Posted on 23/12/2022 21:29

Yes and I liked that idea when you posted it, I don't know the area so is there a concern that it won't get used over the winter? I got the impression that with the new HS, SP and EHU it would attract people all year?

Cornersteady replied on 23/12/2022 21:41

Posted on 23/12/2022 21:03 by DavidKlyne

Steamer Quay would be the idea site to try metered electricity because there is currently no EHU infrastructure. As they are starting from new the addition of metering would probably be of minimal extra cost compared to converting and existing site. Steamer Quay also has the advantage of having relatively few pitches which would further reduce costs but provide useful information on how the Club proceed or otherwise with metering on other Club sites. All that metering will do is remove the cost from the Club to the user, so overall the average Club member is unlikely to notice much difference but those that are happy to rely on their own power generation might benefit from a modest cost saving. There is also the assumption that electricity prices will continue to remain high which I think is wrong. Whilst we don't yet generate all of our electricity from renewable sources that element in years to come will increase and should lower costs which will add another question about whether metering has any cost benefits to Club/Members?

David

 

Posted on 23/12/2022 21:41

I agree about putting meters in here. I get the impression, perhaps wrongly, from the council statement and how it's just been in the December magazine that this is a very recent move? If so maybe the club will install meters here rather than the unspecified location somewhere else? Or even if they won't be used as such at least they would be in place till the recording and billing equipment is ready sometime in the future?

Tinwheeler replied on 23/12/2022 22:16

Posted on 23/12/2022 21:29 by Cornersteady

Yes and I liked that idea when you posted it, I don't know the area so is there a concern that it won't get used over the winter? I got the impression that with the new HS, SP and EHU it would attract people all year?

Posted on 23/12/2022 22:16

I’d think it would be popular all year round, Corners. Totnes is a quaint old town with much to offer at this time of year.

https://www.visittotnes.co.uk/totnes-christmas-market/

It's close to Darlington Hall which a lot of people visit for its arts and crafts and educational facilities.

https://www.dartington.org

Totnes is also on the edge of The English Riviera and Torbay attracts visitors all year round. While the lights may not rival Blackpool’s, the Christmas Train of Lights is certainly a sight worth seeing.

https://www.englishriviera.co.uk

cyberyacht replied on 24/12/2022 07:31

Posted on 23/12/2022 21:03 by DavidKlyne

Steamer Quay would be the idea site to try metered electricity because there is currently no EHU infrastructure. As they are starting from new the addition of metering would probably be of minimal extra cost compared to converting and existing site. Steamer Quay also has the advantage of having relatively few pitches which would further reduce costs but provide useful information on how the Club proceed or otherwise with metering on other Club sites. All that metering will do is remove the cost from the Club to the user, so overall the average Club member is unlikely to notice much difference but those that are happy to rely on their own power generation might benefit from a modest cost saving. There is also the assumption that electricity prices will continue to remain high which I think is wrong. Whilst we don't yet generate all of our electricity from renewable sources that element in years to come will increase and should lower costs which will add another question about whether metering has any cost benefits to Club/Members?

David

 

Posted on 24/12/2022 07:31

Reducing electricity costs are unlikely in the short to medium term and almost certainly not in my vanning lifetime or most of those on here.

My guess is that CAMC prices over the next year or two are going to become even more eye-watering than they are now. There have already been a few comments that occupancy seems lower than previously. Is this the future?

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Cornersteady replied on 24/12/2022 10:21

Posted on 24/12/2022 07:31 by cyberyacht

Reducing electricity costs are unlikely in the short to medium term and almost certainly not in my vanning lifetime or most of those on here.

My guess is that CAMC prices over the next year or two are going to become even more eye-watering than they are now. There have already been a few comments that occupancy seems lower than previously. Is this the future?

Posted on 24/12/2022 10:21

Eye watering for you you mean, Some could say that you've spent a considerable eye watering sum on getting your MH to tour off grid? It's all about choice? 

Has there been those comments? From those that actually use sites? But there has been a good number of posts that have said how many sites are showing very good occupancy rates for next summer, most of the sites I'm on it's showing low and sometimes full, despite the introduction of deposits and these eye watering costs as they are now. 

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