Steamer Quay refurb removal of non EHU pitches

As there is/will be choice at Totnes. The choice will be either the club site with full facilities and EHU or the car park outside with a rubbish bin. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Well there were two we stayed at this year that only had flush toilets and showers part of the year. They were previously municipal sites and now operate as non facility for 6 months of the year. 
I suppose that would be an option for SQ if they installed some barrier technology so it could operate without full time managers.

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But that's not the same as having that choice inside SQ...

perhaps if meters are installed then that will be achieved, but more cost so don't see it happening.

as Steve says there certainly could have been the opportunity to add even more 'tech' with card controlled barrier entry/exit alongside metered bollards which would have reduced the long term running costs, making the recouping of the redevelopment a shorter term task.

however, despite the 'green' rhetoric, the club doesn't seem to be moving towards lower cost, lower price, less 'impact' sites....in fact, it's the complete opposite.

For the last 20 years at least, South  Hams council have only given annual leases, whilst they decided on various redevelopment options, all of which were robustly dismissed by the local people, many of whom do not want the area further gentrifying. The site is one of our favourites, but was getting run down and it is good to hear that the club is moving swiftly to improve the site. Only possible grumble is that fully serviced pitches will be more expensive, but I will be very pleased to have hookups.  

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I’ll Ieave you to it as much of your post is not in reply to mine but I too am glad to see you understand that folk who don’t use club sites can still have an interest in what goes on. 

No it isn't but why should that choice be offered at all? If you want an SP and EHU use SQ if not have the minimal 'site' outside. A clear easy choice for everyone and catering for different needs? 

You have mentioned card entry systems before but I can't see any advantage over ANPR systems and why you mention that system in a number of threads?

There are already card entry systems in place at club sites with barriers (all the ones I've used have them) so not sure what you mean by keeping costs down?

But it does involve you holding the card next to the reader and that means stopping completely, opening your window and  losing heat and if it is raining getting your arm and bits of your vehicle wet. With an ANPR system there's no stopping and no winding down your window? As I said can't see any advantage for a card system, especially now we have the ability to be pre-paid before arrival.

Again if the green aspect bothers anyone then use a site where one's beliefs can be put into practice. As you posted once before shouldn't we all try and keep energy usage down no matter if we're told or not?

 

 

...metered bollards which would have reduced the long term running costs, making the recouping of the redevelopment a shorter term task.

I've already posted about why possibly an entry system won't reduce costs.

But why would metering reduce running costs? Electricity used has to be paid for, either by the club with 'our money' in the overall night's stay or by the club taking the money from those using the meter.

It might, might possibly, reduce consumption, might reduce the cost to someone using a meter, although that's been debated before and not assured, but not the cost of electricity used?

The ones in France were MH only in the winter and I couldn’t understand why. If SQ went down that route in the winter I don’t see why it shouldn’t be for any RV’s with on board facilities. Lots of caravaners use non facility sites, which is basically what it could become in the winter. Costs would be lower and it could therefore operate at less than optimum capacity and still make a profit.