Steamer Quay refurb removal of non EHU pitches

Hja replied on 20/12/2022 21:41

Posted on 20/12/2022 21:41

Just had my copy of the December magazine and noticed that the economy pitches are to be removed at Steamer Quay as part of the refurbishment.  As I understand it, these are the non-EHU pitches.  Isnt this somewhat short sighted in the current climate?  Surely more will be using off grid as a way of saving money?  We certainly will be next year.  Maybe there is some special issue at this site?  I havnt stayed there, just noticed it in the magazine. 

 

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cyberyacht replied on 22/12/2022 06:58

Posted on 21/12/2022 10:27 by Cornersteady

You've missed the point CY, we're talking about metering not a non EHU option although it could be thought of as the same, which I thought you were in favour of?

And anyway as someone actually living in the north I can assure you there is plenty of solar, in fact we get more daylight hours in summer than you do so just the opposite then. People do actually go off grid even further north than here, Scotland I believe.

Do you ever come up this far north?

Posted on 22/12/2022 06:58

Oh yes. Last year I spent a month in the Cairngorms. All but two nights were off EHU.

I am also aware of the "midnight sun" aspect but even then, there is less solar power available. It can be off set by having agreed panels that track during the day but that is too complex for LV fitted panels.

cyberyacht replied on 22/12/2022 06:59

Posted on 21/12/2022 07:33 by SteveL

As a service pitch at peak is going to cost around £40 a night, even after a £5 reduction because the electricity is metered, would it make any difference to wether you stayed there CY?

Posted on 22/12/2022 06:59

Do I look like a member of the Rothschild family?

Graydjames replied on 22/12/2022 09:29

Posted on 22/12/2022 06:58 by cyberyacht

Oh yes. Last year I spent a month in the Cairngorms. All but two nights were off EHU.

I am also aware of the "midnight sun" aspect but even then, there is less solar power available. It can be off set by having agreed panels that track during the day but that is too complex for LV fitted panels.

Posted on 22/12/2022 09:29

What CY states about solar energy being less as you move north is definitely true judging by web sites I have looked at, but I wonder how much difference this makes in practice. Presumably nothing like enough to cause any trial in the north to fail as he suggests earlier in the thread. 

One site I read states that in the south west, solar energy generated is 30% more than in Shetland. So in the north of England, presumably not that big a difference and, anyway, even 30% doesn't sound like enough to me to mean failure.

Cornersteady replied on 22/12/2022 10:13

Posted on 22/12/2022 06:58 by cyberyacht

Oh yes. Last year I spent a month in the Cairngorms. All but two nights were off EHU.

I am also aware of the "midnight sun" aspect but even then, there is less solar power available. It can be off set by having agreed panels that track during the day but that is too complex for LV fitted panels.

Posted on 22/12/2022 10:13

So really then you've disproved your idea that the club is (CAMC) deliberately setting up the trial to fail so that they can say "Nobody wants non EHU" ?

Cornersteady replied on 22/12/2022 10:16

Posted on 22/12/2022 06:59 by cyberyacht

Do I look like a member of the Rothschild family?

Posted on 22/12/2022 10:16

I'll take that as a no?

Actually you've already answered the same question to me that even a £5 difference on any club site wouldn't tempt you so, although entitled to your views, why not leave it to those that do use club sites and market forces? 

Takethedogalong replied on 22/12/2022 20:28

Posted on 22/12/2022 20:28

Please let me reassure potential visitors to “the North” we do get copious amounts of sunshine up here😁 Your solar panels will be fine😁 We invested in a quite large pool this Summer, it was cold filled, no heating, every day, but sun warming had us just step into it and spend hours at a time in it👍

young thomas replied on 23/12/2022 10:28

Posted on 23/12/2022 10:28

It's beginning to look (a lot like Christmas?) like the Club is slowly ironing out all the 'interesting' sites in its portfolio, moving towards a single model that has a 'template' of HS/SP electric pitches.

despite the requests for more members to 'please use less electric' the club is removing the very sites where no electric is used....work that one out🤷🏻‍♂️

the once slightly quirky elements of the network are disappearing fast to be replaced by something far more bland, vanilla and far less interesting.

oh well, the club burnt its last remaining bridge with us earlier in the year and the current trend of more clones will do nothing to entice us back, certainly as these redevelopments will add to their prices....

Cornersteady replied on 23/12/2022 11:23

Posted on 23/12/2022 10:28 by young thomas

It's beginning to look (a lot like Christmas?) like the Club is slowly ironing out all the 'interesting' sites in its portfolio, moving towards a single model that has a 'template' of HS/SP electric pitches.

despite the requests for more members to 'please use less electric' the club is removing the very sites where no electric is used....work that one out🤷🏻‍♂️

the once slightly quirky elements of the network are disappearing fast to be replaced by something far more bland, vanilla and far less interesting.

oh well, the club burnt its last remaining bridge with us earlier in the year and the current trend of more clones will do nothing to entice us back, certainly as these redevelopments will add to their prices....

Posted on 23/12/2022 11:23

Again you appear to be the judge of what is 'interesting' or quirky and replacing them by something far more bland, vanilla and far less interesting, or more clones. 

That's just your view though, it is not the truth or in anyway a fact, or in anyway applies to all those who actually use club sites?

Who know but perhaps these quirky or less interesting sites just weren't viable? That maybe not enough people found them as interesting as you claim? Maybe the people that pay to use use club sites (and even you admit a lot do in their thousands) actually like the way club sites are with their single model template? It's not for you now you say so why not leave it to those that do like and use them and see if the club has got it right with this redevelopment? 

 

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SteveL replied on 23/12/2022 11:45

Posted on 23/12/2022 11:45

It's not for you now you say so why not leave it to those that do like and use them and see if the club has got it right with this redevelopment?

It would seem the club don’t have much choice. Wasn’t it a stipulation of the tender that the site be improved and made suitable for all year use? Whilst that might not need SP’s it does require HS and EHU. Your not going to get many takers using Calor in the winter months. Wether the EHU is metered or not isn’t that relevant, as posters on here who want to use their solar don’t seem prepared to pay the price of even a standard pitch sans EHU.

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