Steamer Quay refurb removal of non EHU pitches

 However, wherever we are, we actually prefer to use our own on board facilities, so prefer to use non facility sites/CLs where available, rather than pay for facilities we will not use.

Same for us, and we know the standard of the facilities is always the same and never more than 1 in the queue. 

I would have to disagree as this site wouldn't represent a typical club site and therefore any trial data would not give a true indication of usage across the clubs network.

I can't help but see this step as being very ironic!

They want to lose the off-grid pitches at massive cost in favour of SP's while announcing that High Orn will be closed due to energy costs!

What are they thinking?

 

It's the club:'s favouritism for holiday destination which already have huge amounts of sites, for example The South West and the Yorkshire coast, disregarding areas where sites are in relatively short supply e.g. Essex and  The Marches, in fact any region West of the M6

West of the M6 includes the Lake District, Nellie, and there are quite a lot of sites there.

An alternative view could be that popular areas encourage the opening of new sites due to a guaranteed market. That doesn't excuse the absence of sites in some areas but good business sense could go some way towards explaining it and, added to that, not all Local Authorities welcome holiday sites.

well all sites will have high energy costs, but sites stay open or close depending if those costs can be met from people staying on them?

And it says closure due to high operational costs not just high energy costs. Is that the same? maybe or maybe not but I suppose the bottom line is those costs cannot be met or subsidised by the club?

It also states and to ensure the rest of the UK Club site network can operate smoothly and cost effectively next year. Again whatever that means but I assume if it was kept open other sites would suffer?

I am not so sure about that. Much of my comment was driven by the fact that the site currently does not have any pitch electrical infrastructure so adding metering would probably not cost as much as trying to convert a site. Yes Steamer Quay, after its refurbishment won't be a typical campsite as there won't be an option for awnings, although Old Hartley seems to manage quite well in that respect. It is likely to perhaps attract a greater a  percentage of motorhomes, who of course, are more likely to depend on their own power supplies. Clearly any decision to introduce metering could not be based on just one site, particularly one that is not typical but it would be a start and could be done at probably a reasonable cost over and above the installation of the electric points. There is an opportunity at Steam Quay if the Club want to take it.

David

Nellie

I wonder if the problem is that it is very difficult, or so it seems, to build a green field site so to speak. I think I am right in saying that all the recent new Club sites have been acquisitions of existing sites. I thought the Club tried to open a site in Essex but the locals protested against it and it didn't go ahead. Can't remember exactly whether that was a permanent site or a temporary one for the Olympics? If they now find acquisitions the best route invariably those sites are going to be in areas where campsites already exist?

David

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I think they are thinking😁 (I do generalise a tad here…..)

Who has the most spending capacity? The older end of the touring fraternity. (The Club’s core demograph.)

Who need/like to be fairly close to a town/shops/attractions, without using their own transport? The older end of the touring fraternity.

Who need the most assistance in terms of power gadgets, ease of set up, less physical exertion? The older end of the touring fraternity.

Who might such pitches attract easily, at whatever cost? The older end of the touring fraternity.

Sound business move on the whole🤷‍♀️ 👍