New Site Booking System

DavidKlyne replied on 25/11/2021 11:54

Posted on 25/11/2021 11:54

The Club have released more details of the new Booking System here 

There are still finer details still to be arrived but the link (thanks Harry) sets out how the new system will work.

I have closed the previous thread on when we will get details of the new booking system and opened this one to allow comments specifically on the new system rather than discussing what they might be.

David

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 09/01/2022 23:09

Posted on 09/01/2022 21:19 by JVB66

After numerous requests in the past ,for information about cancelations ,it is only in the past few weeks that it seems to justify ,what was in the past not a problem for the club , ,which it seems now is a problem ? or as posted by those good at figures, more of an attempt to justify the implementation of of a system that is only wanted by the vocal minority ?

The social club side of our local cricket club ,who we pay an annual membership, always asks the membership what they think before anything major the committee  are contemplating ,and any comments or objections to anything else, it is what would be expected of any democratic club

Posted on 09/01/2022 23:09

JV, it doesn’t seem that long ago you were being accused of being the C&MC’s chief drum banger within a cabal of others who saw no wrong with the C&MC regardless of what they did. Now you seem to have done a 180dg shift. What has irked you so, is it just the small deposit that is being asked for that began your distancing?.

PS-this is a simple question, please don’t read into it some deep attack as it isn’t I’m just surprised at your recent rhetoric👍🏻

DavidKlyne replied on 09/01/2022 23:50

Posted on 09/01/2022 21:19 by JVB66

After numerous requests in the past ,for information about cancelations ,it is only in the past few weeks that it seems to justify ,what was in the past not a problem for the club , ,which it seems now is a problem ? or as posted by those good at figures, more of an attempt to justify the implementation of of a system that is only wanted by the vocal minority ?

The social club side of our local cricket club ,who we pay an annual membership, always asks the membership what they think before anything major the committee  are contemplating ,and any comments or objections to anything else, it is what would be expected of any democratic club

Posted on 09/01/2022 23:50

I suspect most large organisations tend to defend the status quo until they are at the point of changing it and that is what seems to have happened with this change. Had they year after year, as many requested, published cancellation figures that showed up the shortcomings of the current system they would have been criticised for not doing something about it. Hence, probably, the radio silence on the subject until they reached the point where they were ready to tell us about the new system. The irony is that the new system will impact to a greater extent on those that use Club sites the most. Those people tend to be older and more prone to have to change plans because of medical issues and we have yet to know how such emergencies will be sympathetically looked at if bookings have to be cancelled late on. Perhaps there is no justification for that sympathy but if its not built in I fear a lot of loyalty will be lost.

David

Twos more then one replied on 10/01/2022 08:58

Posted on 09/01/2022 23:50 by DavidKlyne

I suspect most large organisations tend to defend the status quo until they are at the point of changing it and that is what seems to have happened with this change. Had they year after year, as many requested, published cancellation figures that showed up the shortcomings of the current system they would have been criticised for not doing something about it. Hence, probably, the radio silence on the subject until they reached the point where they were ready to tell us about the new system. The irony is that the new system will impact to a greater extent on those that use Club sites the most. Those people tend to be older and more prone to have to change plans because of medical issues and we have yet to know how such emergencies will be sympathetically looked at if bookings have to be cancelled late on. Perhaps there is no justification for that sympathy but if its not built in I fear a lot of loyalty will be lost.

David

Posted on 10/01/2022 08:58

The impact will be on speculative bookers , those that abused the system, and the  reason for the change,age is irrelevant 
I was gob smacked, when the club gave the percentage of speculative bookings, 
As we use private, and CCC sites  which are deposit based booking systems, for us .and those that did not abuse the system, how much they use the club  will not change ,it probably will increase.  
A real world example is ,We have already booked two extended stay, one down south, and the other in Scotland, and in both case we have had to go private or CCC, rather then club sites, as many club sites are already booked , of which we now at least 25% are speculative, blocking bookings,  and will not be used .
If the loyalty of members is dependent on the ability to do speculative bookings,  then that is not loyalty 

 

cyberyacht replied on 10/01/2022 09:04

Posted on 10/01/2022 09:04

The club has previously been opaque on the 'late cancellation' issue. We can only deduce that either the club has been ignoring the problem or it has recently escalated, perhaps due to staycations and Covid.

It would, however, have been more readily solvable and, possibly, more acceptable to the membership if the cancellation period had been increased from the paltry 3 days to the proposed 21 days with members credit card details held on file. Late cancellations could then have been dealt with by a penalty fee of £x. A dual rate could even be implemented for a shorter notice (7 days) cancellation with little difficulty. The club could have then maintained the USP of 'no deposit'.

As I posted much earlier in this thread "sledgehammer and nut".

brue replied on 10/01/2022 09:07

Posted on 10/01/2022 09:07

People forget that the club is run on behalf of the membership and the membership is represented throughout. It might have been more democratic if a greater variety of statistics had been published more frequently this would have reduced speculation by interested parties. But on some occasions details need to remain private to prevent business advantages being taken up by similar organisations. However decisions have now been made on behalf of the membership to make the booking system more accountable in several ways eg preventing speculative bookings and cancellations, providing pitch choice, securing income and lessening financial losses.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 10/01/2022 09:31

Posted on 10/01/2022 08:58 by Twos more then one

The impact will be on speculative bookers , those that abused the system, and the  reason for the change,age is irrelevant 
I was gob smacked, when the club gave the percentage of speculative bookings, 
As we use private, and CCC sites  which are deposit based booking systems, for us .and those that did not abuse the system, how much they use the club  will not change ,it probably will increase.  
A real world example is ,We have already booked two extended stay, one down south, and the other in Scotland, and in both case we have had to go private or CCC, rather then club sites, as many club sites are already booked , of which we now at least 25% are speculative, blocking bookings,  and will not be used .
If the loyalty of members is dependent on the ability to do speculative bookings,  then that is not loyalty 

 

Posted on 10/01/2022 09:31

+1, good post.
Particularly the last 2 lines👍🏻

DEBSC replied on 10/01/2022 09:34

Posted on 10/01/2022 09:34

I’m amazed that the club has allowed the speculative booking to continue for so long. All the time maintaining that it wasn’t really a problem, then suddenly all this change and a report giving the true total of speculative bookings. Which in any business is truly unbelievable. Caravan/motor home ownership is so popular now and their membership so high that, in my opinion, they have had to sort themselves out and have a long overdue shake up. I think there will be more changes to come as new and younger more business savvy people work their way to the top. I’m not saying that I agree with all the changes, as Cyber said, sledgehammer to crack a nut.

peedee replied on 10/01/2022 09:38

Posted on 10/01/2022 09:04 by cyberyacht

The club has previously been opaque on the 'late cancellation' issue. We can only deduce that either the club has been ignoring the problem or it has recently escalated, perhaps due to staycations and Covid.

It would, however, have been more readily solvable and, possibly, more acceptable to the membership if the cancellation period had been increased from the paltry 3 days to the proposed 21 days with members credit card details held on file. Late cancellations could then have been dealt with by a penalty fee of £x. A dual rate could even be implemented for a shorter notice (7 days) cancellation with little difficulty. The club could have then maintained the USP of 'no deposit'.

As I posted much earlier in this thread "sledgehammer and nut".

Posted on 10/01/2022 09:38

I suspect that this would have little impact on specualtive bookings. All it would achieve is move the cancellations peak from 4 days to 22 days and many weekends would still get fully booked a year in advance.

peedee

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