Email regarding price increases

JillwithaJay replied on 21/03/2022 15:11

Posted on 21/03/2022 15:11

Anybody received this yet?

"We look forward to welcoming you shortly on our UK Club campsites.


Ahead of your arrival, we wanted to give you advance notice that we’ll be making a small increase to our UK Club campsite prices for stays between 5 April 2022 and 3 January 2023 inclusive.


The unfortunate and sad events which have engulfed the world in recent weeks have meant worldwide electricity costs have increased exponentially. In fact the Club's electricity costs are forecast to increase by an unprecedented amount of around 50% this year.


The fairest way for the Club to manage the rising cost of energy required to run our UK Club campsites is for all members to pay a little bit extra when staying with us this year. This small price increase will support the Club in the face of the rising cost of energy and also help ensure that we can continue to reinvest in improving the UK Club campsite network.


What this means for you:


The increase will be between 70p and £2.50 per night depending on the season and the campsite you are planning to stay on. These calculations are based on a standard touring pitch and two adults.
From 5 April 2022 you’ll be able to see the exact new price you’ll pay by logging into ‘My profile’ and clicking on the ‘My UK Sites Bookings’ section.


There’s no need for you to do anything, on arrival at the campsite you will be charged the appropriate amount.


We appreciate this price increase will not be welcomed, however we would like to share that members have saved over £12.5 million on stays at our UK Club campsite network since July 2020, as the Club passed on the full Government VAT rate saving to members.


We need your support to ensure our wonderful Club can continue to operate all of our amazing campsites at the same high standards during the busy summer season and into the winter, when we expect utility costs to rise further.


What can you do to help:


Below are a few hints and tips to help reduce the cost of electricity usage when you are staying on one of our campsites.


If you have a solar unit on your outfit please use it as much as possible
Make sure indoor and outside lights, any heating appliances and electrical equipment are all turned off when you go out for the day and overnight
We want members to enjoy many holidays with the Club this year, so thank you for your continued loyalty and support, and we wish you an enjoyable 2022 season of touring.


Best wishes
The Caravan and Motorhome Club"

replied on 23/03/2022 07:34

Posted on 22/03/2022 19:44 by TobyLeeds

Dorset diver 

I agree metering in some way is the fairest option. This could be trialled on a couple of sites where upgrading of the facilities is taking place.

short term why not reduce all outlets to 6 amp? If you want more there could be different rates for 10 amp, 13 amp and 16 amp. The wardens could change the fuses (after an electrical safety refresher course) while measuring the 6 metre gap between units and checking the white pegs have not been moved to accommodate errant parkers. 

Posted on 23/03/2022 07:34

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SteveL replied on 23/03/2022 07:44

Posted on 23/03/2022 07:44

Any other ideas?

David 

Why not a smart metre system, linked to an App and account. On arrival at the pitch you would scan a QR code on the meter, which would turn it on and start charging to your account. On leaving you would delete it. Payment of account by DD on a monthly basis. For the decreasing minority without smart phones, there could be provision to arrange meter switch on / payment at reception. Although this of corse would take longer.

young thomas replied on 23/03/2022 07:44

Posted on 22/03/2022 09:38 by

Perhaps the term electricity metering would be a more sensible description.  After all the use of meters belongs in the dark ages.  With modern technology physical meters are an expensive thing of the past.  I have been on sites where it is all controlled centrally from the office and that sort of kit is much easier and less expensive to install, maintain, manage, and control.

Posted on 23/03/2022 07:44

Agreed. Ive just left a site in Spain that monitors and manages customers' electric usage from the office.

recently, I've added more solar to my van and for six weeks, despite having the mains plugged in, have not needed the battery charger turned on, relying solely on solar for water pump, electrical device charging, tv and even recharging our bike batteries.

My investment was primarily to allow us to make use of THS sites, where there is no EHU, and still manage to charge the bikes....re sunshine, this winter break in Spain has been a good test of what we will be doing in the uk in summer with its longer hours of sunshine.

now, should I make use of this system and reduce my usage on a CC site?

no problem if my cost are lowered, but why should i if the club are actually going to charge me even more?

as many have mentioned, the club needs to invest to keep costs down. Not only offering non-EHU options but using solar to reduce office and facilities costs.

with sites like Hillhead at around £52 a night for a serviced pitch, another £2.50 a night seems to be taking the proverbial.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 23/03/2022 07:46

Posted on 22/03/2022 19:42 by Tinwheeler

Should he? Like Steve, we have our heating on overnight at a reduced temperature whether home or away. I didn’t realise it was against the rules decreed by Rufs as I thought it was a matter of personal choice. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 23/03/2022 07:46

Welcome to the charming world of ‘hairshirt camping’, remember-if you ain’t shivering you ain’t enjoying👍🏻👏🏻

SteveL replied on 23/03/2022 07:54

Posted on 23/03/2022 07:54

Just received the following in an email from the club😂😂

Hello Stephen

Congratulations! You’ve now spent five nights or more at the Club which means you’ve saved the cost of your membership. Who knew saving money could be so much fun?

young thomas replied on 23/03/2022 07:58

Posted on 22/03/2022 18:30 by SteveL

As I pay the asking price I’m fairly sure I am paying for my electricity usage not you SB. You are of course free to do what you want and freeze at night. We on the other hand will have the heating on at a reduced level.

Posted on 23/03/2022 07:58

"As I pay the asking price"....

nere in a nutshell is the situation we have on CC sites....I've paid for it therefore I'll use it....usage goes up, costs rise, prices to match...

and here we are, with prices soaring....

what do we get....I've paid (more) for it so I'll use (more of) it...😉

that should sort it.

but any suggestion of getting control of this spiral is Pooh poohed by 'unrecoverable costs', even though total usage would fall dramatically, either by folk being reined in by metering or opting out of usage completely...

Rome is certainly burning, with André Reiu at the helm😉

allanandjean replied on 23/03/2022 08:05

Posted on 23/03/2022 07:34 by

We manage perfectly well on 6 amp it just requires one to be careful how many appliances are used simultaneously and my OH is very good at this. A site we are shortly going to spend 6 weeks at offers  various settings  between  6 and 20 amps at differing  tariffs. We settle for 6 and a daily 8 kw/h but whichever option is taken its set up remotely .

At another site we get 6amp as standard with ACSI and are given the fuse and a key on check in without ever going on a safety course and to the best of my knowledge they haven't killed a customer yet . Nobody ever re-locks the box if they want to keep on good terms with their neighborssmile

Posted on 23/03/2022 08:05

Hi David, Your photo made me smile as it reminded me of my first trip abroad with a caravan.

As i was setting up a guy on the next pitch approached and asked me if I would like a 'larger' fuse. The site limited supply, as you say, by way of the fuse supplied and, he had a supply of higher capacity fuses-he was an electrician-and I think it may even be in a cupboard somewhere still.

I thanked him but did not use it, or need to. We have also managed on sites with 6 amp, Bella Italia being one, and after the nuisance of having to get to the bollard you soon remember to control, you usage.

We have stayed on a site in Devon where;

"Electric hook-up is paid for via a pre-paid card system at certain times of the year. These will be available in 10, 50 and 100-kilowatt increments. There will be no refunds for part-credit on these cards."

We paid for the lowest priced one but found one already in the meter which lasted all of our stay.

Oh, and on the heating overnight my van and home have the incredible ability to vary when the heating comes on and how high it is, we just use that and it never occurred that wasn't what others do.

young thomas replied on 23/03/2022 08:13

Posted on 22/03/2022 18:46 by

Like HJA, I am not in the least bit technical. If you are on EHU, can you switch easily between the power from the bollard and power from the solar panels? Or do you need to unplug from the bollard???? Genuine question.

And, if you can, but you've been charged for EHU the whole of your stay, why should you?

I'd be more than happy to be able to opt out of using EHU.

Posted on 23/03/2022 08:13

WTG, a simple way of managing this would be to connect to EHU but to turn the van's battery charger off.

you now have the situation where the 12v system is supported by solar only and can be used for water pump, heating fan (if reqd), charging iPads, phones etc, running tv etc...no mains involved at all. We even charge our Ebike batteries from 12v via an inverter.

however, with the mains plugged in, if desired you could (say) boil a kettle, run a hairdryer, both short term usage items.

at least like this, all the 12v usage would be coming from sunshine and not from the bollard.

if that bollard were metered, you'd see a significant reduction in usage.

If one has even a simple solar system, there really no need to (say) plug an iPad charger into the mains...when it can be done for free from a solar powered 12v socket.

SteveL replied on 23/03/2022 08:16

Posted on 23/03/2022 07:58 by young thomas

"As I pay the asking price"....

nere in a nutshell is the situation we have on CC sites....I've paid for it therefore I'll use it....usage goes up, costs rise, prices to match...

and here we are, with prices soaring....

what do we get....I've paid (more) for it so I'll use (more of) it...😉

that should sort it.

but any suggestion of getting control of this spiral is Pooh poohed by 'unrecoverable costs', even though total usage would fall dramatically, either by folk being reined in by metering or opting out of usage completely...

Rome is certainly burning, with André Reiu at the helm😉

Posted on 23/03/2022 08:16

You quote of my statement was rather selective BB. It was in full….

“As I pay the asking price I’m fairly sure I am paying for my electricity usage not you SB.”

Nothing there about I have paid for it so I’ll use it to the max and get all 16 amps 24/7.😉

EmilysDad replied on 23/03/2022 08:27

Posted on 23/03/2022 08:16 by SteveL

You quote of my statement was rather selective BB. It was in full….

“As I pay the asking price I’m fairly sure I am paying for my electricity usage not you SB.”

Nothing there about I have paid for it so I’ll use it to the max and get all 16 amps 24/7.😉

Posted on 23/03/2022 08:27

but you are also taking things a little out of context .... when Bill says that he's paying for your electric, he wasn't being literal, it was obvious that he meant that we all pay more if you use more. Not picking you out specifically, but there will always be those that will want to use ALL of their share (plus a little bit extra) .... just like if there's a 'free bar' at a party/wedding/etc, there will always be someone that makes sure they get their fair share (plus a bit extra)

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