Is EHU metering a good investment?

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Maybe bollards that are meter compatible are what are being installed on sites being refurbished but on sites not due  refurbishment. a "cheaper" but modification possible type is being installed if replacing damaged or faulty bollards 

Agreed....it is a sledgehammer....most either want EHU or they don't.

I also agree but it would be a real about turn for the Club to change its mind and have a price depending whether you hook up or not. THey have consistently refused to do this over the years since 2003 when there were many protests over the introduction of an inclusive price.

I remain in favour of metering even though I would use EHU but in probablity, even in winter, just to keep the battery charged.

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It depends on how we describe dynamic. That depends on the aims, objectives and principles behind any innovation. So, for the greens amongst us any dynamic action would be pend on less waste and more efficient end use. Now I’m not sure all members, particularly those grab what you can folk would see any dynamic aim or objective in limiting their use. Many of us would mind! How CaMC ensure non electric, moderate electric users and excessive users pay their way I’m not sure but it’s worth looking into in my opinion. 
Many moons ago I remember a suggestion that an adapter smart plug/meter could be hired on arrival which was returned, read in reception and charges made. Did that have mileage?  

I agree ,one only has to see what some put in the bins at club sites as managers will tell you it is not often that members even separate their recycling from other rubbish when on site even when there are notices above each bin  it all goes in the nearest bin

As one member next to us with a very upmarket outfit advised when the electricians were on site at FM he said  "if the club go down the route of metering my electricity usage I would not come to club sites"

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I was talking generally around different organisations and staffing, rather than just CAMC, sorry it wasn’t that clear.
Our last time out on a Club Site, which was newly refurbished Clumber, there were four staff on duty there. Very visible as well all around the Site, different times of the day, doing this that and the other. Smaller Sites, such as Marazion, Bromyard, Exeter Racecourse, usually two staff.
I’ve no doubts theft of all different kinds goes on, I know two non fixed shower heads disappeared on consecutive days at Yellowcraig, and toilet rolls are best locked into dispensers. But something like theft from a bollard would be a bit more visible, and there are some expert amateur detectives on Club Sites, willing to help out! 🤣

There are actually more site staff employed now than before the working time directive forced this clubs directors to have to employ more staff on sites to enable the hours even now to be covered ie 0800-2000 seven days a week plus an on call requiment and if any members complained it was the wardens who were normally in the wrong

I can remember a site warden at Top Lodge as it was then being suspended for hitting. a member and it was only because another member found out and complained to the club that it was properly investigated and the member who complained was found to be in the wrong

Before the WTD site staffs contracts I am reliably informed  were worded "as many hours as are needed to run your site " which at times would even mean accepting arrivals onto site at much later than the 2000hrs as now

The problems now are society as a whole it seems is going more towards "I have paid for this service so am going to get everything and more I can out of it"

And that is not just my take on it , most of those employed fronting todays public are of the same idea

We haven’t taken a van abroad for a few years so things may well have changed. I do remember being asked what ampage we wanted, and that threw us of course because we were used to just plugging in! I remember meters in Germany and worrying what our bill would be. Again in a time when we didn’t really concern ourselves with electricity consumption and price per unit. The bill was never very high of course, largely battery charging and hot water. In later vans we had a microwave.

At  the time I remember us wondering if continental vans had less electrical items than uk vans, and a generally lower consumption. I wonder why many European sites use either different ampage or metering etc but uk sites have until recently just stuck with 16amp and no meters.

 

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We too have been on sites in France where each pitch was metered. One fairly large memorable site was as far back as 2008, and the meters didn't look new even then.

As regards people 'stealing' electricity by saying they didn't want a hook-up but then plugging in anyway, this would be quite easy to prevent. Put a locking cap on the EHU bollard. I guess that most pitch users will probably want electricity so the cost of a few locks for those that don't want the facility and the time taken for the warden to go to the pitch and put the lock on would be quite minimal in comparison with a meter.

On the other end of the scale, we have recently booked a CL that has just installed meters on their five pitches. They have just had to renew their electricity contract at eye watering figures per kW hence their decision to meter the supply. Rather strangely, they have a price for a basic pitch and no power used and then a second price for pitch using electric. Within this price is an allowance for 15kW per day power usage. Over or above the 15kW the users get an extra bill or a refund. Why it can't just be a cost for the basic pitch with a meter reading when arriving and another when departing and then charged accordingly I don't know. One thing that I'm fairly certain of is that we will never use 15kW per day so we should get a big refund. At home, using washing machines, tumble dryers, electric ovens etc etc we barely use 8 kW per day and a lot less mid summer. The owners may well re-consider this approach. Apparently they got the usage per day by Googling the question about usage. Somebody, somewhere, has got it very wrong I think.