Is EHU metering a good investment?

Posted on 04/12/2022 17:38 by

Micky our hobby is no place for anyone genuinely concerned about "saving the planet " as its currently defined and leaves one open to justified accusations of hypocrisy . It bothers me not but those who are shouldn't be driving around in large vehicle making unnecessary journeys because they want to..

We drive long distances to places we want to visit, use modest amounts of power to cook etc , in warn places use very little if anything to heat the van and in the times we have been on metered sites never had to pay a supplement  for usage over and above the daily allowance. Our greenhouse gasses  will be almost entirely generated by towing a caravan up to 5000 miles a year, will I give it up before I have not a chance. However coming generations are going to be be prevented from enjoying a lifestyle that's been a big and valuable part of our lives and I think its a great pity.

Posted on 04/12/2022 15:10 by

Not as I see it. I could be controversial  here and sugest cold winter days are best spent at home so closing sites during  winter months would save much more.

Posted on 04/12/2022 14:53 by

As a modest user of power I dont see why I should have metering  inflicted on me  because you want to charge your car. If car charging is going to be so important  I would think it much the most  fair option would be for changing stations for those who need them.

Posted on 05/12/2022 07:59 by ChocolateTrees

AD, I think you are missing the point. Metering will not be introduced because of me charging a car, rather I would be more able to do so because of it. 
The club already has a policy of charging EV users independent of included costs (and there is another active thread discussing its legality and merits). 
The issue is how to determine the appropriate cost for _all other users_ (which includes EV users outside of their EV charging) in order stay afloat. 
As much as anything, it allows users to understand their usage and take action if appropriate. 

 

Posted on 04/12/2022 16:54 by KjellNN

I was the one who related how in one very  cold 24 hour period, using all our own facilities, with Alde heating and HW, we used 40kWh.     We were also astonished that we had used so much.

However, our van is older and not so well insulated as current ones, we find 2kw on the Alde is sometimes insufficient if very cold, and use gas instead. We like to be warm, but not hot, usually have the Alde at 21 in the evening, 17/18 during the day, and 13/14 overnight,  If the heating is on, then HW is also being heated.

Our van also does not have LED lighting, or a solar panel.

If/when electricity is metered, depending on the unit price, we would use more gas if it worked out less expensive, and might well use the site facilities too.

Fortunately, we very rarely go away in the van in winter!

Posted on 05/12/2022 08:02 by mickysf

Each to their own but we’ve had many wonderful crisp and clear winter walks in the Lakes and Northern Britain. We’ve visited towns and cities and experience their festive contributions to the season of goodwill. Warmed ourselves inside and out by pub open fires and enjoying fabulous food and company. The heating in the van is off when we are out which is for most of the day, and on low during the sleeping hours. We don’t go on many winter tours and don’t ever do so to sit inside a van. Of course it’s a personal choice but having the van in hibernation for a third of the year seems such a shame to me, nature and the great outdoors is still out there to enjoy and wonder at. If we are not wasteful with our energy, and there is no need to be, have the right clothing and bedding and properly pay our way I’m sure the vast majority would be supportive of all us 4 seasoners. 

Posted on 05/12/2022 08:21 by

As you say we all have our own preferences.  Mine  are for warm places under blue skies. Unfortunately  we live in a country where in winter damp dismal mornings greatly outnumber those crisp fine ones most of the time and I have never subscribed to the "right clothing " theory.. I spent a large part of my life in the dark and dont regret a moment of it but now its blue skies for me I dont like wrapping up warm to walk around under leaden skies.

Posted on 05/12/2022 08:09 by

I answered your post in the way it was framed. You said you were in favour because  at times you wanted to be a heavy user to charge your car. My view is that charging points separate from the pitch circuit would be a very fair option to all.