Is EHU metering a good investment?

Attempted deflection of some members comments on the basis that "you don't use club sites anyway" fails to take into account that amendment of the current regime of "pay for EHU whether you want it or not" might encourage those who are currently reluctant to visit sites more often.

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It does seem a shame that two consecutive posts suggest that there is a dishonest streak within the club and that members are not to be trusted.

reminds me of that Groucho Marx line "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."

As has been mentioned earlier, even firms like the major supermarkets are moving to a trust system of checking out in order to reduce costs and to speed up customer pass through.

yes, there will be the odd dishonest person 'trying it on' but the supermarkets will have built this into their overall budget.

any losses would surely be much less than those implementation costs being bandied about for a fully fledged metering system.

surely members won't risk exclusion from the club and the cancellation of their holidays just to try and filtch a bit of leccy, especially if the wardens make it clear that impromptu spot checks will be made during each day.

Ive not read the entire thread so this may have been mentioned earlier  but having used a CL with metered usage it certainly makes you think and address your usage.

The CL introduced metered usage with an inclusive allowance of 10 units, absolutely no problem with this as costs need to be controlled, weve all seen awnings with the glow of halogen heaters belting away, extra fridges, coolers and stand alone electric ovens, even the odd EV plugged into a EHU via a splitter.

Luckly we had fair weather so dident need the heating on much (using gas over electric) however the alde system will use 10-12 units just on hot water over 24hrs, and the fridge consumed around 4 units per day.  We managed to keep the average daily units below 10  by switching on the alde one hour before use for washing up etc, but will be impossble in colder climates.

Its so easy when on a club site to rock up switch everything on and forget about it, must easly be using 40 units a day just to run the caravan before plugging in portable heaters, cooking appliances, EV's etc.

Maybe those advocating the option not to hook up should email the Club for a response as to why they won't do it. I did get an answer many years ago but I have forgotten exactly what was said. I think it went along the lines they would fall foul of the current rules.

I know of no sites in the UK that offer the option when the hook up is available on the pitch.

peedee

Why is having a meter connected to an EHU bollard any different to having a meter at home? I'm sure there would be a lot of uproar if home meters were removed and a blanket price charged, sufficient to cover the high users, which I am sure we would all become in time.

As to commercial electricity contract tariffs, the CL that I rereferred to up-thread, told me their new contract tariff was £1.05 per unit (over three times what I pay at home) and that is what I would be charged, or refunded, for over or under use of the basic 15kW that is inbuilt into their daily site fees.

Your experience is very much like ours watto64.

How much is their pitch fee to start with John?

Offering a number of inclusive units might satisfy those who find topping up meters an inconvenience but doesn't that require meters to be read by site staff on departure followed by payment for any excess? That to me adds inconvenience over using a card system.

peedee

I'm not sure if, by 'units' you mean KWH, which is how the bollards we've used have been calibrated.

heating a tank of water with a Truma Combi with the power setting at 1,800 watts (or 1.8kw) would use 1.8kwh to heat fully to the 60 deg setting IF it took one hour.

...but as it only takes 20 mins (1/3 of an hour) to heat it fully then this would take 0.6 kWh.

most sites we used this winter charged €0.40 per KWH, so a hot tank of water cost us €0.24 or just over 20p.

even at a rate of £1.05 (as mentioned above) this would cost the princely sum of 63p.

Even if the Combi were to take 30 mins to heat to 60 deg, this would use 0.9 kWh and would cost 94p.

the Combi (or ALDE) certainly doesn't need to be left on all day.

while it's probably necessary at this time of year to have your shower water at 60 deg, one could easily manage the odd bit of washing up at 40 deg which would reduce the cost further.

not only that, for washing up, why not use a kettle (electric 900w or a gas hob one) and just boil what you need. An hour on ALDE for washing up sounds like overkill at £1 odd a kWh.

With our large fridge/freezer and occasional use of hot water, plus OH hairdryer we kept to our 4 kWh daily inclusive supply, which had a 'value' of €1.6

at the £1.05 rate that would be £4.20 a day...a big difference but fine if pitch prices are reduced accordingly.