Is EHU metering a good investment?

What return would the club get from 'investing' the £3m plus? 

Is not a fairer system and better control of pitch costs  an advantage?

Firstly it would have to find the money either through loans which it would have to pay back with money from where?

The Club is cash rich and does not need loans, it is planning on investing £12 million next year and £16 million in 2024 on the sites network.  Hopefully some of that will be on metering.

peedee

Two obvious benefits....

one, as PD mentions, the club has control over the changing/rising costs of its pitch power budget...these costs are borne by the users.

two, those above costs are borne proportionally by those users...you use more, you pay more.

I am just commenting on what two electricians from CPES said when in conversation last week one comment was security of the supply to meters

I just wonder what the "greater membership" would think about the introduction of electric meters and where they would see any benefit? Any saving in site fees is likely to be spent on electricity so many might see metering as more of an inconvenience than having any benefit? Those that don't need a hook-up or those that will only use a minimum of electricity because they either employ their solar energy or refillable gas systems will benefit the most but surely they are a tiny minority of members? If electricity prices remain high it has a benefit to the Club in helping to control costs, however will prices for electricity remain high? Apparently there are calls for Ofgem to decouple the pricing of electricity from gas so that we get a more realistic (reduction) in the price of electricity which is not subject the the same market pressures. 

David

Is it? Not to me, is it for you? If so why do you keep using a system that is to you unfair? Just go to where there is metering?

An advantage to who? I work, invest? on my cycle fitness to help me to enjoy it more, what advantage will metering give to me and I suspect many others?

Yes I'm glad to hear it's investing and those investments will bring in money, will metering?

And if the trial shows negative results hopefully the club won't 'invest' in metering.

Benefits but not a return on any money spent. 

But as you won't be using club sites why Keep worrying, let those that do perhaps make the decisions?

What you use is bound to vary with the age of your van, what equipment you have in your van, how cold it is outside, whether or not you use gas for some purposes, and how much you make use of site facilities, if indeed there are any.

Our van is a 2008 model, so predates the improved insulation that came in in , I think, 2009.   We have Alde  heating, but only the 2kw version.  To warm the van in colder weather we use gas initially on the Alde, plus a small electric fan heater for instant heat.  It needs 2kw on the Alde to keep the van warm due to the poorer insulation.

We do not usually go away between the end of October and the middle of March, but one time we did, and it was very cold, we used 40kWh in 24 hours, the fridge/freezer uses 4 and the rest went on cooking, HW and heating.  

While away at warmer times we would use 10-12 kWh  unless we switch to gas for HW and heating as we always wash up in the van, and mainly use our own shower etc.

As we have refillable gas bottles, gas is generally cheaper to use than electricity when electricity is expensive and metered.

Corners........if you get a van with the Alde system, make sure it has, or you add, the load monitor.  This will automatically cut down or off what the Alde uses if you turn on too many other things, you just set it to however many amps are available on your pitch.

As I posted the member with a very upmarket outfit next. to us in a 15year old PVC ( he did talk to us if forced to) said when the electrician was checking the bollard "if the club bring in metering then I will not use club sites"

+1

There wouldn’t be enough benefit for us, we are in that minority. But the Club needs to think around future Members, it’s life blood.

That will be led by younger people than the vast majority of existing Members, and that will depend on a lot of factors around affordability of outfit purchase/ownership, affordability of pitch fees, and what it’s competitors are doing. Lots of our family tour, in a variety of outfits, but we remain the only Club Members. We never had a brand new outfit, towed by a nearly new car whilst we were working, and I doubt most working folks will be much different a couple of generations on, not unless they grew up touring or are sharing an outfit with parents.