Early arrivals - action at last?

Tinwheeler replied on 03/09/2022 12:51

Posted on 03/09/2022 12:51

I’ve said several times when we’ve discussed the issue of early arrivals that, in my opinion, the only effective way to deal with recalcitrant 'offenders' is to apply membership sanctions.

I’ve been reading elsewhere of a CAMC member who, it’s reported, has had his club membership suspended by the Site Manager due to arriving early at Hillhead and refusing to leave despite being requested to do so by that Site Manager.

In this case it seems to have been the member's own lack of planning and forethought which resulted in his early arrival so it’s not a case of there being any extenuating circumstances.

Obviously only one side of the story is given and we need to keep open minds but, if this is factual, it would appear that the club is using its teeth in an effort to enforce the no arrivals before 1300 rule. Perhaps this is what is needed to get the message across.

moulesy replied on 06/09/2022 11:29

Posted on 06/09/2022 11:14 by

All inextricably linked.  In short if there had been no early arrival none of this would exist.  If the wardens had  not reacted as they did none of this would exist. If the manager had not reacted as he did none of this would exist.  If the member had not reacted as he did none of this would exist. It is all inextricably linked. A very unfortunate chain of events all linked that could have been avoided by the application of common sense and decency. Something in very short supply amongst CC Ltd staff it would seem.

Posted on 06/09/2022 11:29

Your links are rather tenuous, but given they exist, surely the first event was the one that set the chain in motion and therefore the root cause of the whole unfortunate chain of events. undecided

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 06/09/2022 11:29

Posted on 06/09/2022 11:14 by

All inextricably linked.  In short if there had been no early arrival none of this would exist.  If the wardens had  not reacted as they did none of this would exist. If the manager had not reacted as he did none of this would exist.  If the member had not reacted as he did none of this would exist. It is all inextricably linked. A very unfortunate chain of events all linked that could have been avoided by the application of common sense and decency. Something in very short supply amongst CC Ltd staff it would seem.

Posted on 06/09/2022 11:29

If only folk stopped driving cars there’d be no climate change, or fuel poverty issues. Yup we can all state alternate facts but none of us can change logic. Yet some will always try to push an agenda in a vain attempt🤷🏻‍♂️🙁

Tinwheeler replied on 06/09/2022 12:01

Posted on 06/09/2022 11:51 by JollyKernow

 In a vain attempt at humour some folk like to get threads locked TW.

JK

Posted on 06/09/2022 12:01

There's been many an attempt, JK.

vbfg replied on 06/09/2022 12:05

Posted on 06/09/2022 11:14 by

All inextricably linked.  In short if there had been no early arrival none of this would exist.  If the wardens had  not reacted as they did none of this would exist. If the manager had not reacted as he did none of this would exist.  If the member had not reacted as he did none of this would exist. It is all inextricably linked. A very unfortunate chain of events all linked that could have been avoided by the application of common sense and decency. Something in very short supply amongst CC Ltd staff it would seem.

Posted on 06/09/2022 12:05

If site staff have been told by head office to turn arrivals away if they arrive before 1.00 pm, what do you expect them to do?  If they let one outfit arrive on site before that time then others will still carry on arriving before the allotted time ad infinitum.

Takethedogalong replied on 06/09/2022 12:11

Posted on 06/09/2022 12:11

It’s obviously been a big problem with early arrivals this Summer. There are two reviews for Exeter Racecourse where the posters admit to turning up early, then having a right old moan about things. One 10.30am, other 11.30am. Can only presume they sat in big area other side of track until 1pm. (That’s the area where the early arrivee at Hillhead could have sat to kill a bit of time before setting off)

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Posted on 06/09/2022 11:29 by moulesy

Your links are rather tenuous, but given they exist, surely the first event was the one that set the chain in motion and therefore the root cause of the whole unfortunate chain of events. undecided

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Takethedogalong replied on 06/09/2022 12:27

Posted on 06/09/2022 12:27

If a policeman asks you to do something around a rule, let’s say move off parking on double yellows, where you might cause an obstruction, or even an accident, would one (rhetorical question) say no?

Personally, I wouldn’t, because I know I am doing something I shouldn’t be doing, I also from a moral point of view know that it’s a selfish action, only undertaken for my own gratification. I also know that if I say no, then things will escalate and what is a trivial rule break really, could result in the situation getting a whole lot worse for me personally. 

Slightly more serious situation than the Hillhead saga, but technically, only the uniforms are different. Both are staff having to enforce rules.

 

replied on 06/09/2022 13:00

Posted on 06/09/2022 12:27 by Takethedogalong

If a policeman asks you to do something around a rule, let’s say move off parking on double yellows, where you might cause an obstruction, or even an accident, would one (rhetorical question) say no?

Personally, I wouldn’t, because I know I am doing something I shouldn’t be doing, I also from a moral point of view know that it’s a selfish action, only undertaken for my own gratification. I also know that if I say no, then things will escalate and what is a trivial rule break really, could result in the situation getting a whole lot worse for me personally. 

Slightly more serious situation than the Hillhead saga, but technically, only the uniforms are different. Both are staff having to enforce rules.

 

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