Early arrivals - action at last?

Tinwheeler replied on 03/09/2022 12:51

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Posted on 03/09/2022 12:51

I’ve said several times when we’ve discussed the issue of early arrivals that, in my opinion, the only effective way to deal with recalcitrant 'offenders' is to apply membership sanctions.

I’ve been reading elsewhere of a CAMC member who, it’s reported, has had his club membership suspended by the Site Manager due to arriving early at Hillhead and refusing to leave despite being requested to do so by that Site Manager.

In this case it seems to have been the member's own lack of planning and forethought which resulted in his early arrival so it’s not a case of there being any extenuating circumstances.

Obviously only one side of the story is given and we need to keep open minds but, if this is factual, it would appear that the club is using its teeth in an effort to enforce the no arrivals before 1300 rule. Perhaps this is what is needed to get the message across.

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Tinwheeler replied on 04/09/2022 15:32

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Posted on 04/09/2022 15:00 by peedee

It is worth considering the arrival time was not as stated. He may have been earlier than just 15mins. People do try and pinch a bit when it comes to stating times to make their case more favourable.. Mind you even if accurate he was still too early.

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Posted on 04/09/2022 15:32

We do not know anything to be fact, PD. You make a good point but, as we can only read one side of the story, we'll never know.

JVB66 replied on 04/09/2022 15:35

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Posted on 04/09/2022 15:14 by JollyKernow

Having worked at Exeter Racecourse I know there's enough ground away from pitching areas for at least 30 outfits to park safely, free of charge, all day long. No reason at all to arrive at any site anywhere before the stated arrival time, so yes you're right, common sense in very short order

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Posted on 04/09/2022 15:35

and your point is?

We have done that journey at a similar. time of year and normally. is a nightmare , not quite so bad since the relief road has opened,After passing Newton Abbot ,is there any place to stop at that time not full of HGVs on their legal break!!! if the member was truthful. about his arrival time ? it would have taken quite some time to exit Hillhead let alone go via Kingswear

Ps have the overnight arrivals at Hillhead now been stopped

JVB66 replied on 04/09/2022 15:44

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Posted on 04/09/2022 15:00 by peedee

It is worth considering the arrival time was not as stated. He may have been earlier than just 15mins. People do try and pinch a bit when it comes to stating times to make their case more favourable.. Mind you even if accurate he was still too early.

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Posted on 04/09/2022 15:44

If a much earlier than the 15mins early. then it is possible. there is another side as in most cases

JollyKernow replied on 04/09/2022 15:48

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Posted on 04/09/2022 15:35 by JVB66

and your point is?

We have done that journey at a similar. time of year and normally. is a nightmare , not quite so bad since the relief road has opened,After passing Newton Abbot ,is there any place to stop at that time not full of HGVs on their legal break!!! if the member was truthful. about his arrival time ? it would have taken quite some time to exit Hillhead let alone go via Kingswear

Ps have the overnight arrivals at Hillhead now been stopped

Posted on 04/09/2022 15:48

You posted previously about not being allowed a late departure so I explained about a waiting area negating the need for a late departure at all.

The LNA at Hillhead has been gone for over a year.

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Tinwheeler replied on 04/09/2022 15:54

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Posted on 04/09/2022 15:44 by JVB66

If a much earlier than the 15mins early. then it is possible. there is another side as in most cases

Posted on 04/09/2022 15:54

Irrespective of ifs and buts, there is always another side to the story. I thought I’d made that plain way back up thread. It’s a given.

Cornersteady replied on 04/09/2022 16:08

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Posted on 04/09/2022 16:08

It would appear from the other thread that the CCC are also doing the same - turning away early arrivals.

Tinwheeler replied on 04/09/2022 16:25

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Posted on 04/09/2022 16:08 by Cornersteady

It would appear from the other thread that the CCC are also doing the same - turning away early arrivals.

Posted on 04/09/2022 16:25

It’s obviously a problem for both clubs and they seem to be grasping the nettle in an effort to deal with it. I wonder what, if any, sanctions C&CC impose?

JVB66 replied on 04/09/2022 16:25

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Posted on 04/09/2022 15:48 by JollyKernow

You posted previously about not being allowed a late departure so I explained about a waiting area negating the need for a late departure at all.

The LNA at Hillhead has been gone for over a year.

JK

Posted on 04/09/2022 16:25

And I also posted that it was not unusual for the journey to Hillhead can and often is at that time of year a nightmare so an hour and more is not unusual

JollyKernow replied on 04/09/2022 16:30

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Posted on 04/09/2022 16:25 by JVB66

And I also posted that it was not unusual for the journey to Hillhead can and often is at that time of year a nightmare so an hour and more is not unusual

Posted on 04/09/2022 16:30

So common sense would tell me to plan for the shortest journey time. If it takes longer then so be it, at least the arrival wouldn't then be early

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Tinwheeler replied on 04/09/2022 16:32

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Posted on 04/09/2022 16:25 by JVB66

And I also posted that it was not unusual for the journey to Hillhead can and often is at that time of year a nightmare so an hour and more is not unusual

Posted on 04/09/2022 16:32

I dispute that but why are you dragging this into reasons for bad time keeping when the crux of the thread is about the club imposing membership penalties on early arrivers?

That's a rhetorical question, btw, meaning it does not require an answer.

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