Clachan Arrival Trial.

DavidKlyne replied on 28/08/2022 00:17

Posted on 28/08/2022 00:17

This link was posted in the General Chat section but I think it would be good repost here as a separate discussion. https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/useful-information/arrival-efficiency-trial-at-clachan/

The Club are going to trial the use of ANPR from 24th August at the Clachan site in Scotland to automate arrivals with the likelihood it will be rolled out to more sites if successful. Some of you may have already used commercial sites where ANRP is employed to access a site. All the details are quite extensively covered in the link. Members will have to make sure their registration number is registered when booking and apparently payment will be taken on the morning of arrival. 

David

Cornersteady replied on 29/08/2022 20:40

Posted on 29/08/2022 20:21 by SteveL

I’m not saying this could or should apply to the club. However, the one big advantage of the CCP system is that the clock starts ticking from when you enter, not from 1pm. As to it being another card, I don’t see that as a problem, you simply charge it up for your holiday, takes minutes to do.

Posted on 29/08/2022 20:40

But the 1pm arrival is very common place in the UK and that's not going to change anytime soon, and certainly there are not many, if any, club like sites that have all day 24 hour arrivals like CCP so the advantage you talk about just doesn't apply in the UK.

I'm not against other cards, when travelling abroad we'll have a pre loaded card but I don't think that approach is necessary when touring in the UK is it? Which was my point?

I can't think of single advantage or reason over here to use such a card touring over here or the club introducing one and perhaps charging me £5 to have one, and then I have to take the take time to do something, load it before leaving, that I don't have to do. My bank card is already preloaded (and gets preloaded automatically) and ready to go.

Unless one were to pre-load it with a large amount (why again) but then there is lost minimal interest and all you're doing is giving a lot more money to the club or whoever upfront?

(Actually we're looking at pre loaded cards for over there in September but apart from security we'll probably use our current debit and credit cards that have no loading or fees)

Tinwheeler replied on 29/08/2022 20:49

Posted on 29/08/2022 20:21 by young thomas

Sounds as if the club has it nailed. I look forward to the reviews.😉

Posted on 29/08/2022 20:49

Better still, try club sites when they have the new technology and write your own reviews with the aim of making a fair comparison. That would surely be of greater benefit to others than simply telling how it could be done. 👍🏻

nelliethehooker replied on 29/08/2022 20:49

Posted on 29/08/2022 15:25 by DavidKlyne

CS

The barrier is there but it's difficult to see in such a small photo. As I understand it the entrance into this site also allows access to some cabin type accommodation (don't know if it's anything to do with the Club?) so the entrance barrier is set well back on the site road as it enters the trees. If you can open the picture in a new tab you might just be able to make it out. 

 

Posted on 29/08/2022 20:49

That in fact is the exit barrier, DK, the entrance to the site is the red barrier to the right of your photo, and is closer to the road. There are cabins not owned by the club, off to the left which use the same entrance from the road so if a few units are parked waiting to enter they would block the access/egress for them.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 29/08/2022 21:37

Posted on 29/08/2022 17:16 by Cornersteady

it asks the question...

The system is actually voice activated, that is very clever BB? 

Yes all very well for that system and those sites abroad but the club already has a system in place for taking the money and it's done before arrival (as really like most large campsites in the UK including your favourite CC ) on the site.

And now with ANPR linked to pre payment I can't see how your system is any better or offers and advantage. You appear to be pushing the other system quite hard for some reason if you're not going to using club sites?  

A better idea would to be trial the club's own first before jumping straight to the one you like?

Posted on 29/08/2022 21:37

It isn’t voice activated MrC-fact🤷🏻‍♂️

SteveL replied on 29/08/2022 21:59

Posted on 29/08/2022 20:40 by Cornersteady

But the 1pm arrival is very common place in the UK and that's not going to change anytime soon, and certainly there are not many, if any, club like sites that have all day 24 hour arrivals like CCP so the advantage you talk about just doesn't apply in the UK.

I'm not against other cards, when travelling abroad we'll have a pre loaded card but I don't think that approach is necessary when touring in the UK is it? Which was my point?

I can't think of single advantage or reason over here to use such a card touring over here or the club introducing one and perhaps charging me £5 to have one, and then I have to take the take time to do something, load it before leaving, that I don't have to do. My bank card is already preloaded (and gets preloaded automatically) and ready to go.

Unless one were to pre-load it with a large amount (why again) but then there is lost minimal interest and all you're doing is giving a lot more money to the club or whoever upfront?

(Actually we're looking at pre loaded cards for over there in September but apart from security we'll probably use our current debit and credit cards that have no loading or fees)

Posted on 29/08/2022 21:59

Unfortunately I fear you are correct. It is very unlikely we will ever be able to tour as freely this side of the channel. Doesn’t stop folk discussing the possibilities though. After all this is a forum for anyone who wishes to air their views. As to the card, no need to charge for one, well other than the membership fee,😂 you already have a membership card, all it needs is a bar or QR code, or even better a chip. No money is held on the card, just in your online account which the card references. It might even provide a useful way for members to save for there time away, given that two weeks away can easily exceed £700.

Takethedogalong replied on 29/08/2022 22:01

Posted on 29/08/2022 16:28 by young thomas

TDA, It cant be that difficult.

When you wave the card at the post it asks the question, are you (really) leaving?

if not, it opens the gate to let you out (temporarily) and charges your acct up to that point (to stop you running away) and leaves the pitch booking open with you.

if yes, I'm leaving, it opens the gate and charges your acct up to that point and closes your pitch booking leaving it then available to the next customer.

Posted on 29/08/2022 22:01

That does explain it better thank you, I now understand that it’s a bit more than just a camera recognising number plates and operating gates accordingly, and how it could link to pitch availability. 

Tammygirl replied on 30/08/2022 00:09

Posted on 30/08/2022 00:09

We've  used the Clachan site,  it's fairly local for us. 

The approach roads are not great so if you are ahead of time trying to find somewhere to linger awhile will be difficult.

If approaching from the Loch Tay side its just about impossible even for a single small car,  let alone a car and caravan outfit or a medium to large MH.  If approaching from the opposite direction its still not an easy  thing to find a layby.

This is definitely a site that you do not arrive before 1pm.

 

cyberyacht replied on 30/08/2022 08:40

Posted on 30/08/2022 08:40

DT wrote "If you are  causing an obstruction on the road then it is a traffic offence. The police can then book you for the offence and you pays your fine. I don’t know if you can get penalty points or not, I dare say some one on here will know

Cause Vehicle to Be Left in a Dangerous Position (Endorsable)
CJS Offence Code: RT88508Offence Wording: Cause Vehicle to Be Left in a Dangerous Position (Endorsable)Contrary to section 22 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and Schedule 2 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.

This offence carries a fine of £100 and three penalty points."

That could be a nice little earner when we get our next petrol station panic.

Are the queues at club sites 'really' that much of an obstruction to the world at large?

Tinwheeler replied on 30/08/2022 08:57

Posted on 30/08/2022 08:27 by young thomas
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Posted on 30/08/2022 08:57

Mine was a constructive suggestion in response to your comment about reviews, BB. You don't need to be defensive, or to labour the point, or to attempt to point score.

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