Clachan Arrival Trial.

DavidKlyne replied on 28/08/2022 00:17

Posted on 28/08/2022 00:17

This link was posted in the General Chat section but I think it would be good repost here as a separate discussion. https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/useful-information/arrival-efficiency-trial-at-clachan/

The Club are going to trial the use of ANPR from 24th August at the Clachan site in Scotland to automate arrivals with the likelihood it will be rolled out to more sites if successful. Some of you may have already used commercial sites where ANRP is employed to access a site. All the details are quite extensively covered in the link. Members will have to make sure their registration number is registered when booking and apparently payment will be taken on the morning of arrival. 

David

JVB66 replied on 30/08/2022 10:33

Posted on 30/08/2022 10:24 by Takethedogalong

Ah but……..that is tying up a Member of staff just checking off a list of known arrivals. The ANPR will be programmed to recognise arrivals and lift the barrier automatically. So no Member of staff there.
I would suggest the staff Member was there to prevent a back up of traffic rather than anything else. It certainly is when done like this at Ferry Meadows. After peak arrival time, you yell into an intercom to get barrier raised. Which isn’t that much better, but at least the Member of staff is inside warm and dry🤷‍♀️ Waiting to let you through the second barrier😉

Posted on 30/08/2022 10:33

It needs a big sign on the first barrier at FM to advise the use of the call button 🤔the times it is noted LVs at the barrier with the drivers not understanding what happens next 🤗

SteveL replied on 30/08/2022 10:43

Posted on 30/08/2022 10:12 by brue

It might be that as Clachan has no wardens on site that it will be the only ANPR site and it's just a trial run for this particular situation and not the start of a revolution in general. smile

Posted on 30/08/2022 10:43

Couldn’t they have done it more simply if that was the case. They are going to contact you for payment in any event, the gate code could have been communicated at that time. It would have relied on folk adhering to what they were told in the phone call and not turning up till 1pm though and also ringing through their pitch number.

Takethedogalong replied on 30/08/2022 10:56

Posted on 30/08/2022 10:33 by JVB66

It needs a big sign on the first barrier at FM to advise the use of the call button 🤔the times it is noted LVs at the barrier with the drivers not understanding what happens next 🤗

Posted on 30/08/2022 10:56

Agreed. We rolled up and stared blankly at the barrier. I tried Abracadabra, and Alohomora, but it stayed shut. Then we tried the scene from The Bodyguard where Kevin Costner mumbles something unintelligible into the intercom…….that worked🤣🤣

young thomas replied on 30/08/2022 16:31

Posted on 29/08/2022 21:37 by Rocky 2 buckets

It isn’t voice activated MrC-fact🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 30/08/2022 16:31

It was CS that assumed voice activation. I certainly didn't mention it. I just mentioned how straight forward it would be (and is already on many of todays systems) to have a communication with the customer...

"do you have a nectar card?"...."how many bags have you used"...."are you really leaving this campsite?"😉

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 30/08/2022 17:03

Posted on 30/08/2022 16:31 by young thomas

It was CS that assumed voice activation. I certainly didn't mention it. I just mentioned how straight forward it would be (and is already on many of todays systems) to have a communication with the customer...

"do you have a nectar card?"...."how many bags have you used"...."are you really leaving this campsite?"😉

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:03

Ok, I never said you did I was addressing MrC BB sharing my knowledge with him as he does us👍🏻. We all have communication just not via ANPR. I can confirm the bottom 2 lines of your post is correct-that is communication👏🏻👏🏻

Cornersteady replied on 30/08/2022 17:33

Posted on 30/08/2022 16:31 by young thomas

It was CS that assumed voice activation. I certainly didn't mention it. I just mentioned how straight forward it would be (and is already on many of todays systems) to have a communication with the customer...

"do you have a nectar card?"...."how many bags have you used"...."are you really leaving this campsite?"😉

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:33

Just to be clear I asked you a question BB, I never assumed anything, and yes you did mention it:

.When you wave the card at the post it asks the question, are you (really) leaving?

Actually don't get too upset it reminds me of funny similar mistake I made once.

It was a part of training when you had to fly without using your own instruments in case of damage or something like that. I asked my instructor what's the altimeter saying, to which he replied, can't hear it, so I tried again with what's the altimeter reading, to which he replied Romeo and Juliet.

davetommo replied on 30/08/2022 19:03

Posted on 30/08/2022 09:22 by SteveL

Could it really be called a dangerous obstruction? The road is straight, and approaching traffic has gets plenty of warning, dashed line down the middle, therefore other traffic can cross it. No yellow lines or other indications that queuing is not permitted.

Posted on 30/08/2022 19:03

Put it this way if the utility services were working on this road and taking up the space of just a car one side of the road they would need to have some form of traffic control, straight road or not and yellow lines or not. Reason being to reduce the chance of a vehicle collision.

 

 

 

 

 

Hja replied on 30/08/2022 19:06

Posted on 30/08/2022 19:06

It will be very interesting to see how this works. My guess is it will be fine for most people most of the time. However it is when it doesn’t work that the issues will begin. I don’t know the site, so only going by the photos. Car and caravan rocks up to the barrier and it doesn’t work. Is it the barrier? Is it member? I gather there is some buzzer to press for help, but not enough space to reverse out of the way, so queue forms. If it is not a buzzer hope they are not relying on member having a mobile that works. Is help going to open the barrier or will someone have to arrive from other site?
OK the technology may be well used elsewhere but as others have said, not without issues.

I speak as someone who more often than not is jinked by self service tills, too often something goes wrong. And also someone who couldn’t get the exit barrier on the Canterbury p & r aire to work with our camper van.

Takethedogalong replied on 30/08/2022 19:49

Posted on 30/08/2022 17:03 by Rocky 2 buckets

Ok, I never said you did I was addressing MrC BB sharing my knowledge with him as he does us👍🏻. We all have communication just not via ANPR. I can confirm the bottom 2 lines of your post is correct-that is communication👏🏻👏🏻

Posted on 30/08/2022 19:49

That’s what confused me. I thought we were just discussing ANPR, not barrier cards, or any other kind of card. 

The card scheme is very good, but outside the realms of the Club at the moment🤣

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