Charging electric cars on Club sites.

cariadon replied on 19/12/2017 12:02

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Posted on 19/12/2017 12:02

With the government wanting all cars to be electric in years to come and some MHers have them as runarounds how do you think the club should address the issue, This is NOT a thread against electric cars.

Do you think the club should change the bollard to accommodate the second connection, have a designated charging area and should the charging bollard be metered so you pay as you use, or the cost added to pitch fee, or any other suggestion.

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replied on 26/12/2017 11:53

Posted on 26/12/2017 10:47 by JVB66

Its not the vehicles that will be expensive,it will be the cost of running them, when the govenments of the world realise how much they will lose from the revenue now received from the taxes on fossil fuel, and to recoup the massive amounts they have had to invest in the supply of electricity and the infrastructure for charging them all and as of now ,the recycling of old batteries

Posted on 26/12/2017 11:53

The price of fuel ( petrol/diesel) is actually quite cheap but it is the tax levied of around 64% that makes up the majority of the cost,

RAC fuel cost breakdown

As JVB suggests above, if EV vehicles become widespread then the Government will have no option but to introduce similar taxes onto EV vehicles. So, whilst it may be better for the environment, I cannot see it resulting in lower costs for the motorist

P.S My parents rented their first Colour TV in 1968 ish ( and they were not rich!)

replied on 26/12/2017 13:41

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Posted on 26/12/2017 11:53 by

The price of fuel ( petrol/diesel) is actually quite cheap but it is the tax levied of around 64% that makes up the majority of the cost,

RAC fuel cost breakdown

As JVB suggests above, if EV vehicles become widespread then the Government will have no option but to introduce similar taxes onto EV vehicles. So, whilst it may be better for the environment, I cannot see it resulting in lower costs for the motorist

P.S My parents rented their first Colour TV in 1968 ish ( and they were not rich!)

Posted on 26/12/2017 13:41

It might not be that easy! After all, how do they tax an electric socket in your own home?

Tinwheeler replied on 26/12/2017 13:45

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Posted on 26/12/2017 13:41 by

It might not be that easy! After all, how do they tax an electric socket in your own home?

Posted on 26/12/2017 13:45

Your electric bill is subject to VAT, currently 5%. After Brexit, the UK Govt can impose whatever rate of 'purchase tax' it sees fit.

replied on 26/12/2017 13:59

Posted on 26/12/2017 13:41 by

It might not be that easy! After all, how do they tax an electric socket in your own home?

Posted on 26/12/2017 13:59

Just increase the road fund licence for EVs to £1000 per annum ( or more!)

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ocsid replied on 26/12/2017 14:05

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Posted on 26/12/2017 14:05

Why not simply work on the Vehicle Tax, what we think of as road fund tax? Not the "fuel", here electricity, as that has so many other uses than powering vehicles.

I do see its increase as being eyewateringly huge as not only is the figure got to replicate what Vehicle Tax pulls in now but should also be pitched to cover the massive infrastructure cost the change to EVs will inevitably force on us all.

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SteveL replied on 26/12/2017 14:19

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Posted on 26/12/2017 13:41 by

It might not be that easy! After all, how do they tax an electric socket in your own home?

Posted on 26/12/2017 14:19

I understood that the latest generation of smart meters were able to differentiate between what items were using the power. If they can tell when you are charging a vehicle, this portion of your usage could be charged or taxed at a much higher rate.

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JVB66 replied on 26/12/2017 16:05

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Posted on 26/12/2017 13:41 by

It might not be that easy! After all, how do they tax an electric socket in your own home?

Posted on 26/12/2017 16:05

Well three of the many "options" have been suggested,

Randomcamper replied on 26/12/2017 16:42

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Posted on 26/12/2017 16:42

The government is/will introducing a pay by the mile scheme for lorries.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-4246412

Once established for wagons they will simply roll it out for cars in a few years time, so replacing the revenue lost from petrol/diesel tax.

Then it doesn't matter that electricity is barely taxed......

ocsid replied on 26/12/2017 16:49

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Posted on 26/12/2017 16:42 by Randomcamper

The government is/will introducing a pay by the mile scheme for lorries.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-4246412

Once established for wagons they will simply roll it out for cars in a few years time, so replacing the revenue lost from petrol/diesel tax.

Then it doesn't matter that electricity is barely taxed......

Posted on 26/12/2017 16:49

As low mileage users needing two differing capability vehicles and not generally using high traffic density roads and at peak high cost times, that sort of taxation method would be excellent.

I see it having high facilitating costs, more so for visitors but all doable.

DavidKlyne replied on 26/12/2017 19:34

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Posted on 26/12/2017 16:42 by Randomcamper

The government is/will introducing a pay by the mile scheme for lorries.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-4246412

Once established for wagons they will simply roll it out for cars in a few years time, so replacing the revenue lost from petrol/diesel tax.

Then it doesn't matter that electricity is barely taxed......

Posted on 26/12/2017 19:34

I tend to agree that it will likely go that way in the future. Given that the Government rate EV's for zero tax it would be a bit strange for them to suddenly impose the same tax regime they currently do for petrol and diesel vehicles. One way round this would be to move the goal posts and change to a system of paying by miles driven. Like Oscid I think my general driving would mean that I would pay a lot less than I do now. It could also help in persuading people to use public transport during peak times if that is an alternative.

David

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