Charging electric cars on Club sites.

cariadon replied on 19/12/2017 12:02

Posted on 19/12/2017 12:02

With the government wanting all cars to be electric in years to come and some MHers have them as runarounds how do you think the club should address the issue, This is NOT a thread against electric cars.

Do you think the club should change the bollard to accommodate the second connection, have a designated charging area and should the charging bollard be metered so you pay as you use, or the cost added to pitch fee, or any other suggestion.

replied on 26/12/2017 09:06

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:06

I think that in principle th EV would be fine. However it will need huge infrastructure changes and replacing the energy presently provided by petrol, diesel and gas for propelling vehicles will be a stumbling block IMO

JVB66 replied on 26/12/2017 09:13

Posted on 26/12/2017 04:28 by

Nevertheless, it is going to happen that petrol and diesel vehicles will become obsolete and when that happens everyone will have to convert to EV whether they like it or not. When that happens, all caravanners will have EVs that will need to be charged overnight through their caravan electric. If they don't, they'll have no power to run their cars to do their shopping, visiting places, visiting friends and family etc. Furthermore, without electric power, they'll be unable to tow their caravan either to or from club sites.

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:13

The nevarnia you are trying convey ,is generations in the future,the Govenments  do a lot of "blue sky thinking" to try to win brownie points from one another,

To "help?" ease the shortage of houseing they want to build 12000 properties in this area, and when asked by our local town society,are they all going to be enviromentaly compatable  for the future not one of the companies they contacted had any plans to install EHUs for charging EVs

The infrastructure that would be req is so huge that no one without a lot money from the govenment (us) would be able to afford it,

So as far as the Leisure industry doing it around the country ?then its never going to happen as the users of would not pay the prices , there are enough complaints about prices now

 

JVB66 replied on 26/12/2017 09:15

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:06 by

I think that in principle th EV would be fine. However it will need huge infrastructure changes and replacing the energy presently provided by petrol, diesel and gas for propelling vehicles will be a stumbling block IMO

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:15

So very truesurprised

brue replied on 26/12/2017 09:25

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:25

It will be gradual, just as the changeover from horsepower was gradual, no doubt fuel had to be found then, there was no "infrastructure" and we didn't produce our own fuel at the time.

Out of interest everyone who has had a go in our EV is impressed and interested. Younger members of the family are totally unfazed.

replied on 26/12/2017 09:34

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:25 by brue

It will be gradual, just as the changeover from horsepower was gradual, no doubt fuel had to be found then, there was no "infrastructure" and we didn't produce our own fuel at the time.

Out of interest everyone who has had a go in our EV is impressed and interested. Younger members of the family are totally unfazed.

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:34

I think you're right, brue. Petrol stations will eventually stop selling petrol or diesel because there will be no market for it. They will switch over to fast charging points at a fraction of the cost of buying fossil fuels.

It's like that saying from the movie 'Field of Dreams.'  "If you build it, they will come." Well they are building and selling more electric cars and people will come to buy them so that petrol and diesel will be consigned to history. Mark my words!

JVB66 replied on 26/12/2017 09:39

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:25 by brue

It will be gradual, just as the changeover from horsepower was gradual, no doubt fuel had to be found then, there was no "infrastructure" and we didn't produce our own fuel at the time.

Out of interest everyone who has had a go in our EV is impressed and interested. Younger members of the family are totally unfazed.

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:39

We were not as reliant on our own transport in those days to get us where we wanted,it cannot be a "gradual" as then,

and how long have we had internet and there are still thousands of small companies and houses,in places without adequate supply

SteveL replied on 26/12/2017 09:45

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:45

The problem I have is where is all this electricity going to come from. We are constantly being urged to reduce consumption, both for our own pockets and because generation cannot keep place with demand. I was just playing with a few figures, perhaps others can comment if they seem correct. Because I am sure I must be doing something wrong.

If we say EV ownership was only 1 million of 30 million cars on our roads, and each requires an average charge of 10 kw a night  ( that's 10,000 watts of electricity each night) so a total of ten thousand million watts. Or 10,000 MW. Hunterston B nuclear plant only puts out 965MW, so I am sure I must of made a mistake.

However my brain hurts so I am giving in.

Whatever the figures it will be extra power. Where is it coming from.🤔

JVB66 replied on 26/12/2017 09:47

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:34 by

I think you're right, brue. Petrol stations will eventually stop selling petrol or diesel because there will be no market for it. They will switch over to fast charging points at a fraction of the cost of buying fossil fuels.

It's like that saying from the movie 'Field of Dreams.'  "If you build it, they will come." Well they are building and selling more electric cars and people will come to buy them so that petrol and diesel will be consigned to history. Mark my words!

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:47

"When" and if the if the infrastructure is there,as a Fast charge point will need far more power than a fuel pump

Kennine replied on 26/12/2017 09:50

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:50

This thread has proved that there is a huge divergence between those who accept that Electric Vehicles are the future and those who are firmly locked into the idea that the Internal Combustion Engine is the future.  ---- Interesting views from both camps. 

It is obvious that Camping organisations,  for the time being does allow the odd EV to charge from the site electricity supply on pitch, will not be able support widespread use of their electricity in this way in the near future and beyond. 

As EV use increases, as it surely will, I predict a huge change in the way people holiday on campsites. In fact there is a strong possibility that the use of towed Caravans will reduce to minimalist proportions, with most campers opting for alternatives. 

smile

JVB66 replied on 26/12/2017 09:58

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:50 by Kennine

This thread has proved that there is a huge divergence between those who accept that Electric Vehicles are the future and those who are firmly locked into the idea that the Internal Combustion Engine is the future. 

Interesting views from both camps. 

smile

Posted on 26/12/2017 09:58

I do not think that is the case of fossil fuels forever for directly powering transport,but it will be needed for many years to come to enable the change over to be any where near enough to sustain our lifestyle that we have come to take for grantedsurprised

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