Charging electric cars on Club sites.

cariadon replied on 19/12/2017 12:02

Posted on 19/12/2017 12:02

With the government wanting all cars to be electric in years to come and some MHers have them as runarounds how do you think the club should address the issue, This is NOT a thread against electric cars.

Do you think the club should change the bollard to accommodate the second connection, have a designated charging area and should the charging bollard be metered so you pay as you use, or the cost added to pitch fee, or any other suggestion.

replied on 19/12/2017 15:09

Posted on 19/12/2017 15:09

The charging of EVs is something that the CC may/will eventually have to address but presumably is taking the easiest (do nowt) approach at present because the effects of EV charging is probably generally insignificant currently.

Kennine replied on 19/12/2017 15:17

Posted on 19/12/2017 15:17

It's easy to solve, Have a couple of proper charging points in the LNA area of the site and levy a charge for their use. No charging allowed while on a pitch.  That will please everybody and help the finances of the CMC retail business. 

peedee replied on 19/12/2017 15:26

Posted on 19/12/2017 15:26

Not every site has a late night arrivals area. The Club would have a problem applying a consistent policy.

peedee

peegeenine replied on 19/12/2017 16:03

Posted on 19/12/2017 16:03

 The club doesn't supply free electricity to EV owners who charge their EVs on the pitch. They have paid for a 16amp unlimited supply so no discrimination to other diesel/ petrol owners. It's up to them to manage their supply.
It does make another case for metering though if EVs become more popular but I doubt that will be any time soon. If sockets for charging EVs are added to the bollards then these should be charged for separately.

Rufs replied on 19/12/2017 16:28

Posted on 19/12/2017 16:28

SteveL has hit the nail on the head, i,e, during the summer months when we are not using our heaters and BBqing on gas, and not sitting indoors watching telly, then consumption will be low, and the CAMHC will take this into consideration when doing the sums. Now bring on the EV that is for e.g. charging overnight and consumption will increase and in line with this so will pitch fees. As a fairly basic camper e.g. no telly I am a bit miffed at having to pay higher pitch fees to cater for those who literally bring everything including the kitchen sink to site. Bring on metering. If prices rise much more we will have an "exclusive" club that only those with money can afford to use.

peedee replied on 19/12/2017 16:40

Posted on 19/12/2017 16:40

if EVs become more popular but I doubt that will be any time soon.

I think you are wrong there peegeenine, I think we are about to see significant growth in models available and ownership of not only pure EVs but also hybrids.

peedee

hitchglitch replied on 19/12/2017 16:54

Posted on 19/12/2017 12:02 by cariadon

With the government wanting all cars to be electric in years to come and some MHers have them as runarounds how do you think the club should address the issue, This is NOT a thread against electric cars.

Do you think the club should change the bollard to accommodate the second connection, have a designated charging area and should the charging bollard be metered so you pay as you use, or the cost added to pitch fee, or any other suggestion.

Posted on 19/12/2017 16:54

Slow chargers are about 3kW so there won’t be much left from your 16 amps to run anything else which is a problem particularly in the winter. I guess it only becomes an issue if, say, 5 to 10% of people plug in every night and despite my enthusiasm for all things electric it will be quite a while before that happens and plenty of time for the Club to reassess.

KeefySher replied on 19/12/2017 17:15

Posted on 19/12/2017 17:15

Or the CAMC could be innovative and put in infrastructure to use the storage capacity of the EV batteries that the members have in their future vehicles that whilst stood unused are available to store electrickery when generation by solar and wind is plentiful, and feed back into the grid when the sun doesn't shine i.e. overnight.

My solar PV pays for the domestic electrickery, not beyond the wit of a commercial organisation like the CAMC to earn from it's future 'battery' capacity on it's sites. After all we are constantly told sites are fully occupied. All those batteries just sat wanting to tingle.

Think airport long term car park, joe blogs drives to the airport, dumps the EV car after plugging in, the airport rents his battery out for the annual 2 week holiday.

chasncath replied on 19/12/2017 17:19

Posted on 19/12/2017 17:19

"They have paid for a 16amp unlimited supply..." - I don't think so! The supply at Club EHUs is limited to 16 amps, but that's not the same as saying you are entitled to draw such a current at will. The site electrical installation will have been designed to cope with an expected average load, not everyone drawing 16 amps all at the same time. The cabling and switch gear required would be prohibitively expensive, not to mention unsightly.

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JVB66 replied on 19/12/2017 17:24

Posted on 19/12/2017 17:19 by chasncath

"They have paid for a 16amp unlimited supply..." - I don't think so! The supply at Club EHUs is limited to 16 amps, but that's not the same as saying you are entitled to draw such a current at will. The site electrical installation will have been designed to cope with an expected average load, not everyone drawing 16 amps all at the same time. The cabling and switch gear required would be prohibitively expensive, not to mention unsightly.

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Posted on 19/12/2017 17:24

I think that each pitching areas are on 60amp fuses/trips on main boards where meters are?undecided

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