Bristol Site

RowenaBCAMC replied on 02/07/2020 16:53

Posted on 02/07/2020 16:53

Hi everyone, 

We wanted to keep you updated of the Club’s plan for a new site in Bristol. The Club bought a site in Clanage Road in 2016 as a replacement for the extremely popular Baltic Wharf campsite because the Club’s landlord, Bristol City Council, had been moving ahead with plans to redevelop the Western Harbour area of Bristol.

We would really like to be able to continue to offer a site in Bristol as we know many of our members love to visit Bristol and have fond memories of staying at Baltic Wharf. It will also have a great economic benefit in the local area with members visiting local attractions, shopping and eating out, as the City is easily accessible on foot and by public transport from the new proposed site. Having a Club Site will also extend the range of accommodation Bristol can offer.

We have resubmitted a planning application for a site on Clanage Road and would love it if any members can help this application by contacting Bristol City Council in support of the proposed new Club Site. 

For more information on how to support a planning application visit: https://www.bristol.gov.uk/planning-and-building-regulations/comment-on-a-planning-application or alternatively you can email the Council your thoughts: development.management@bristol.gov.uk

We would be very grateful for your support in this matter and thank you in advance for your help. Support from members could well help to secure a positive outcome. In the meantime members will still be able to stay at Baltic Wharf Club Site in Bristol up until the end of the year. 

We will keep you posted on developments and wish you a very happy touring season ahead.

SteveL replied on 03/07/2020 12:45

Posted on 03/07/2020 12:34 by brue

I suppose you could ask the same about BW, both have the tidal  Avon alongside. 

Posted on 03/07/2020 12:45

I suppose it will depend on the relative levels of the two sites. I don't remember BW ever flooding. That pub down by the basin lock gates has got wet occasionally and the water level was into that cross street from the swing bridge one year.

cyberyacht replied on 03/07/2020 12:46

Posted on 03/07/2020 12:27 by peedee

It is better than BW, it has a MSP.smile

peedee

Posted on 03/07/2020 12:46

But is it a proper one or an awkward to access manhole cover?

tricia11 replied on 03/07/2020 13:10

Posted on 03/07/2020 12:42 by

Baltic Wharf as been there a long time and maybe flooding was not such an high profile concern at the time. No idea if BW has flooded in the past

Posted on 03/07/2020 13:10

Just the road collapsed not far from the gate.

peedee replied on 03/07/2020 13:42

Posted on 03/07/2020 13:42

 Just done a calcualtion regarding how long it would take a vehicle coming round the corner to reach the entrance. At 30 m.ph. 18 secs, at 40 m.p.h 8 secs. In the opposite direction the time for a sighted vehicle at 120m away to reach the entrance is even less, at 30 m.p.h 15 secs and at 40 m.p.h 6.5 secs  For safety, and for application approval, it would appear to me some kind of traffic calming measures would need to be put in place. Hope my calculations are wrong!

peedee

peedee replied on 03/07/2020 14:02

Posted on 03/07/2020 14:02

just an after thought, perhaps stopping distances are more relevent. At 40 m.p.h its 40 yards so in theory the majority of vehicles should be able to stop for anyone exiting the site. I have always found rumble strips very effective at slowing myself down.

peedee

Wherenext replied on 03/07/2020 14:17

Posted on 03/07/2020 14:17

As I understand it, the plans to ban diesel vehicles from the inner city will come into effect in 2021. The ban is supposed to last from 7.00am until 3.00pm.

So how will departure from site will managed in this time scale? Stay until 3.00pm, no arrivals until 4.00pm? No using the vehicle to leave the site during most of the day?

JVB66 replied on 03/07/2020 14:29

Posted on 03/07/2020 14:17 by Wherenext

As I understand it, the plans to ban diesel vehicles from the inner city will come into effect in 2021. The ban is supposed to last from 7.00am until 3.00pm.

So how will departure from site will managed in this time scale? Stay until 3.00pm, no arrivals until 4.00pm? No using the vehicle to leave the site during most of the day?

Posted on 03/07/2020 14:29

Or go out south via the m5 which does not go in to the city centre

Takethedogalong replied on 03/07/2020 14:34

Posted on 03/07/2020 14:34

It looks as though the proposed site sits just outside the zone, although leaving heading South might just take you in then out of the medium zone🤔 Not sure if I am looking at a map that has been agreed upon though.....

replied on 03/07/2020 14:36

Posted on 03/07/2020 13:42 by peedee

 Just done a calcualtion regarding how long it would take a vehicle coming round the corner to reach the entrance. At 30 m.ph. 18 secs, at 40 m.p.h 8 secs. In the opposite direction the time for a sighted vehicle at 120m away to reach the entrance is even less, at 30 m.p.h 15 secs and at 40 m.p.h 6.5 secs  For safety, and for application approval, it would appear to me some kind of traffic calming measures would need to be put in place. Hope my calculations are wrong!

peedee

Posted on 03/07/2020 14:36

Hope my calculations are wrong!

They are! No idea of the distances you are using (around 240 metres?) but at 40 instead of 30 it will take 3 quarters of the time. 

As an ex highway engineer:

For a junction onto a 30mph limit the required visibility distance is 43m (y distance) from a point 2.4m behind the edge of carriageway measured down the access. This will define the needed visibility splay etc. Double white line systems make splays less onerous to the left on exit. At 40mph the y distance is 120m.

 

https://documents.hants.gov.uk/highways/TG3TechnicalGuidanceNote-StoppingSightDistancesandVisibilitySplays.pdf

Metheven replied on 03/07/2020 14:40

Posted on 03/07/2020 14:17 by Wherenext

As I understand it, the plans to ban diesel vehicles from the inner city will come into effect in 2021. The ban is supposed to last from 7.00am until 3.00pm.

So how will departure from site will managed in this time scale? Stay until 3.00pm, no arrivals until 4.00pm? No using the vehicle to leave the site during most of the day?

Posted on 03/07/2020 14:40

From my understanding it is not in the red Zone, nor the Clean Air zone, and privately owned diesels are not charged for entering the Clean Air zone which gives more access/exit  routes from the East and South other than the main access/exit route from the Gordano turn off....... unless they change it again.

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