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Cornersteady replied on 12/12/2018 11:12
Posted on 12/12/2018 10:51 by young thomasI don't go with Thomas Cook
...but 'generally' you get it at the price you booked...
the point is, the mechanism to provide this is easy and industry wide.
the change to rolling holidays was a big change for the club, but there are obviously other important aspects of this process (the implication of price changes) that weren't fully understood.
cyberyacht replied on 12/12/2018 11:22
replied on 12/12/2018 12:04
Posted on 12/12/2018 12:04
Really peed off that we didnt get the email either , warning of price increases . Had so many to book and stupidly waited, not knowing the price increase was coming ! Caravan club is so expensive compaired to many sites , if we do rejoin it will deffo be our last year. Just seems all about the money for them ! We have added a couple of days to one site we did book in advance and because of that it shot the price up to the new rate for the whole booking . £10 is a lot of money to us . There are no discounts for disabled and carers either. Not impressed but no doubt its our own fault
Tinwheeler replied on 12/12/2018 13:31
Posted on 12/12/2018 13:31
There is much to be desired in the workings and thinking of the club, Giza, but in my view considering giving discounts to certain groups is not one of them.
Families are able to take advantage of reduced rates for children but where should the line be drawn? You mention the disabled and carers but how about the unemployed, those on Universal Credit, or OAPs? In a lot of cases being in one of those groups does not indicate financial need.
Don't forget that any discount given to certain people has to be recouped from the membership as a whole in the form of increased site and membership fees - the very essence of the complaint in your post above.
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young thomas replied on 12/12/2018 14:22
Posted on 12/12/2018 11:12 by CornersteadyI actually do agree with you BB, a +1 in fact, a farce really and a clear case of no joined up thinking!
I wonder what would have happened if no one had picked this up on here?
Compliments of the season btw
replied on 12/12/2018 17:56
Posted on 12/12/2018 13:31 by TinwheelerThere is much to be desired in the workings and thinking of the club, Giza, but in my view considering giving discounts to certain groups is not one of them.
Families are able to take advantage of reduced rates for children but where should the line be drawn? You mention the disabled and carers but how about the unemployed, those on Universal Credit, or OAPs? In a lot of cases being in one of those groups does not indicate financial need.
Don't forget that any discount given to certain people has to be recouped from the membership as a whole in the form of increased site and membership fees - the very essence of the complaint in your post above.
Posted on 12/12/2018 17:56
Looking at the finances of the club , if i was in charge , i would give discounts to some of the groups you mention , simply because they dont have the means to earn a living for what ever reason , like other people do . I suspect we may disagree on the subject , but just saying what i would do . People arent disabled by choice etc . And many benefits are means tested and checked ...that means they are telling the truth , they are on severely limited incomes. I know we will disagree but i bid you farewell . These are just my thoughts and opinions . Take care :-)
Tinwheeler replied on 12/12/2018 19:18
Posted on 12/12/2018 17:56 byLooking at the finances of the club , if i was in charge , i would give discounts to some of the groups you mention , simply because they dont have the means to earn a living for what ever reason , like other people do . I suspect we may disagree on the subject , but just saying what i would do . People arent disabled by choice etc . And many benefits are means tested and checked ...that means they are telling the truth , they are on severely limited incomes. I know we will disagree but i bid you farewell . These are just my thoughts and opinions . Take care :-)
Posted on 12/12/2018 19:18
You’re entitled to your opinion, Giza, and fortunately you’re not in charge of the club. The money held by the club is, in effect, members' money used to acquire new sites and maintain/refurbish existing ones.
I am well aware of how our welfare system works and which benefits are means tested which is why I said "In a lot of cases…" . Of course people aren’t disabled by choice and I have every sympathy with them but their being so does not necessarily mean they are financially hard up. I do my bit to help others but I'm not going into details here, however, in my opinion, a member owned club which has to remain financially viable for the benefit of its members should not be raising costs to some members in the interests of giving discounts to certain others unless, of course, it is the decision of that membership to do so expressed through a vote at the AGM.
Have you given any thought to the logistical and administrative nightmare of deciding just who might qualify for a discount and how entitlement would be proved?
You take care, yourself.
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Cornersteady replied on 12/12/2018 19:44
Posted on 12/12/2018 17:56 byLooking at the finances of the club , if i was in charge , i would give discounts to some of the groups you mention , simply because they dont have the means to earn a living for what ever reason , like other people do . I suspect we may disagree on the subject , but just saying what i would do . People arent disabled by choice etc . And many benefits are means tested and checked ...that means they are telling the truth , they are on severely limited incomes. I know we will disagree but i bid you farewell . These are just my thoughts and opinions . Take care :-)
Cornersteady replied on 12/12/2018 19:44
Posted on 12/12/2018 19:18 by TinwheelerYou’re entitled to your opinion, Giza, and fortunately you’re not in charge of the club. The money held by the club is, in effect, members' money used to acquire new sites and maintain/refurbish existing ones.
I am well aware of how our welfare system works and which benefits are means tested which is why I said "In a lot of cases…" . Of course people aren’t disabled by choice and I have every sympathy with them but their being so does not necessarily mean they are financially hard up. I do my bit to help others but I'm not going into details here, however, in my opinion, a member owned club which has to remain financially viable for the benefit of its members should not be raising costs to some members in the interests of giving discounts to certain others unless, of course, it is the decision of that membership to do so expressed through a vote at the AGM.
Have you given any thought to the logistical and administrative nightmare of deciding just who might qualify for a discount and how entitlement would be proved?
You take care, yourself.
replied on 13/12/2018 09:32
Posted on 13/12/2018 09:32
It would be very easy to sort through logistically ! Ie send proof of those who are genuinely struggling financially and therefore receive means tested benefits , to the club head office. It only needs a copy of the government letters we get . Means tested benefits are only awarded to those in genuine financial difficulties, but then you already know that. It is closely regulated ! Other companies manage it like eon electricity for example . You apply , send proof from benefit letters , they send you a discount . Lots of companies do it , and the key is sending that government letter as proof . So its not awarded to those who dont need it .
As none of us are in charge of running this club , ( so glad you pointed that out , i actually thought i was 😂 ) , i suspect our conversation here is an utter waste of time , and for some reason , your attitude is making my heart sink . For that reason i have to inform you that i wont be reading any replies....but type away fella and put your world to right ! Good day 😊. Keep on with your good works , make sure you are kind tho . Its important .
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