Am I an outdated fuddy duddy?

GrahamCraik replied on 14/01/2023 16:01

Posted on 14/01/2023 16:01

Good afternoon Campers. 

I have been camping in tents, a caravan and more recently a campervan for the last 50 years. I was taught and have always believed that it is rude to walk across or through other people's pitches. This weekend, we are staying at Henley Four Oaks and we have recently stayed at Cirencester, Tewkesbury and Moreton-in-Marsh.

I am somewhat saddened that in all cases, people have walked right through our pitches, within feet of our van, to take a shortcut to wherever they are off to. 

 People are close enough to peer in through our windows. 

Am I right in thinking this is rude and inconsiderate behaviour? Or am I just being old-fashioned in these enlightened times? 

 

Cornersteady replied on 15/01/2023 18:31

Posted on 15/01/2023 18:01 by Bonnymike

A while ago at Rookesbury Pk a male was actually clearing a way through the hedge at the rear of our pitch. Politely asked if he was new to the club as his actions were not acceptable. Didn,t come that way again although we received dirty looks for rest of week.

Posted on 15/01/2023 18:31

Good for you and it's their problem if they want to 'sulk' like that. You're there to enjoy your holiday.

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Rocky 2 buckets replied on 15/01/2023 23:30

Posted on 15/01/2023 16:23 by Graydjames

I find it sad that some of those posting here think it's OK to walk across other people's pitches. And, especially that those of us who still respect the good practice of not doing so are living in the past. I find that insulting. No wonder arguments sometimes get heated and personal in this place.

To me this attitude encapsulates the lack of respect in society today, especially among the younger generation, but also, seemingly, in some of those of older years.

Would you freely walk across other people's (unfenced) gardens when out on a walk? I doubt you would. And, yet, you yourself make the comment that you are renting your space for a period of time; that is exactly right. For those x days it is your space for which you have paid; the right to use it is your entitlement and not the entitlement of all-comers - just as your garden is your space. I certainly believe you should expect that space not to be made use of by people who are too lazy to take the proper route. Your analogy about the price of beer is also entirely misplaced. It is not the same thing at all. Of course, we'd all like to buy beer at 1970's prices, but how is that the same as losing the kind of respect for other people that once used to be more prevalent in British society.  

I do not think you have to walk across other people's pitches in order to be sociable and make friends. That is a poor excuse for invading someone else's space. I always talk to my neighbours or other passers-by given even only half a chance. I travel alone most of the time and being able to chat with other members and campers is really important to me. I am upset by those who ignore one or who refuse to make eye-contact. But I jolly well would not dream of walking across some one else's pitch in the hope or expectation that that will enable me to make contact. Instead I would expect to be frowned upon because, as SteveL quite rightly states above, to do this is just plain rude.

On a different point, I agree with Tinny that a rule about crossing other people's pitches is hard to enforce. However, I strongly disagree with the notion that a rule that is hard to enforce or which people regularly break should be done away with. Adopting such an approach, in more important matters of law and social cohesion, would lead to chaos.

I accept that walking on other people's pitches is a minor transgression, but I remain of the view that good manners and respect for others is such that it should not happen. It's no use telling those of us who are annoyed by it to chill as some have. It won't spoil my time away, but nor will I ever see it as acceptable behaviour.       

Posted on 15/01/2023 23:30

It upsets me when folk ask a question, then answer it themselves followed by berating the person who never said a word🤷🏻‍♂️. But I am more forgiving & I realise some folk get very upset over trivialities so I make allowances. Being more of a free spirit I tend not to get upset over innocent words on a forum🤟

PJMEG replied on 16/01/2023 00:15

Posted on 16/01/2023 00:15

Not sure if this is relevant as the posts seem to be more about club sites and rules

We have now started to use more CL s yes they are much smaller but we have found that none of pitch crossing seems to happen whilst on site and you can still converse with people who are staying on the C L whilst having your own space.

Maybe the difference is that C L sites are members only.

 

InaD replied on 16/01/2023 08:30

Posted on 15/01/2023 16:14 by Cornersteady

Well I don't think so at all.

A person chooses to break the rules not the design of the site. Just because it's easy to do so isn't really an excuse or a defense. It is just rude and unacceptable behaviour.

It's easy for my car (by design) to break the speed limit that it's me that has to press down the accelerator and decide to break the speed limit. 

Posted on 16/01/2023 08:30

Of course it's the person who chooses to break the rules, and to blame anything else is wrong, and isn't an excuse or defense.  But IMHO the fact remains that where it's easy to cut across pitches to get to, for example, the toiletblock, the design and layout will inevitably tempt some (not most) people to cut across by walking on other people's pitches.

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Posted on 16/01/2023 08:30 by InaD

Of course it's the person who chooses to break the rules, and to blame anything else is wrong, and isn't an excuse or defense.  But IMHO the fact remains that where it's easy to cut across pitches to get to, for example, the toiletblock, the design and layout will inevitably tempt some (not most) people to cut across by walking on other people's pitches.

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Rocky 2 buckets replied on 16/01/2023 09:09

Posted on 16/01/2023 00:15 by PJMEG

Not sure if this is relevant as the posts seem to be more about club sites and rules

We have now started to use more CL s yes they are much smaller but we have found that none of pitch crossing seems to happen whilst on site and you can still converse with people who are staying on the C L whilst having your own space.

Maybe the difference is that C L sites are members only.

 

Posted on 16/01/2023 09:09

Or maybe there is way more room to manoeuvre👍🏻. The last one I was on I was shouting distance from my nearest neighbour. The family were playing cricket(with a soft ball) the ball never came close😊

JohnM20 replied on 16/01/2023 09:30

Posted on 14/01/2023 17:00 by eurortraveller

Some are irritated by it, some aren’t -but it’s the design and layout of some sites which lead to it happening. You might be happier if you pitched at the site perimeter rather than the centre -  or chose a different style of site altogether.

Posted on 16/01/2023 09:30

Why should we have to Euro ? Why should the 'offenders' still be allowed to get away with it? The problem is that we seem to have forgotten our manners and have adopted a very selfish attitude to everything. As each generation goes by things will just get worse as the children 'learn?' from their parents. Do we just have to accept that anything goes? I hope not but that is the way things appear to be going, sadly.

Just as an aside, the chances of passers by actually seeing into the caravan / motorhome is not that great if the light outside is brighter than the light in the caravan. The passers by are more likely to see a reflection of themselves in the windows. We see them clearly enough but not the other way around generally speaking. Check this out for yourself. 

Takethedogalong replied on 16/01/2023 10:21

Posted on 16/01/2023 00:15 by PJMEG

Not sure if this is relevant as the posts seem to be more about club sites and rules

We have now started to use more CL s yes they are much smaller but we have found that none of pitch crossing seems to happen whilst on site and you can still converse with people who are staying on the C L whilst having your own space.

Maybe the difference is that C L sites are members only.

 

Posted on 16/01/2023 10:21

Sorry but I find your last sentence to be somewhat strange. I very much doubt that payment of £50+ somehow means that selfish, lazy, me me me behaviour disappears, poof, into the wind🤷‍♀️ Being ignorant of the personal space and privacy needs of others is more a behavioural issue than the ability to pay a Membership fee.

Do you stay on Sites where non Members are made to wear badges telling you they are such…………..or might it just be a statement based on snobbery and supposition🤔 

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