Am I an outdated fuddy duddy?

GrahamCraik replied on 14/01/2023 16:01

Posted on 14/01/2023 16:01

Good afternoon Campers. 

I have been camping in tents, a caravan and more recently a campervan for the last 50 years. I was taught and have always believed that it is rude to walk across or through other people's pitches. This weekend, we are staying at Henley Four Oaks and we have recently stayed at Cirencester, Tewkesbury and Moreton-in-Marsh.

I am somewhat saddened that in all cases, people have walked right through our pitches, within feet of our van, to take a shortcut to wherever they are off to. 

 People are close enough to peer in through our windows. 

Am I right in thinking this is rude and inconsiderate behaviour? Or am I just being old-fashioned in these enlightened times? 

 

mickysf replied on 15/01/2023 12:06

Posted on 15/01/2023 10:54 by TimboC

From the Clubs site rules;

 

f. Guests are asked to respect other guests' privacy at all times. For example, do not cut across or behind occupied pitches.

Posted on 15/01/2023 12:06

Semantics I know but is the phrase ‘asked to respect’ helpful within a rule? Rules are frequently misunderstood, go unread, ignored. Some are unaware of them and even when aware the interpretation can differ between folk. Of course, politely asking or having that friendly chat can help but at the end of the day it boils down to an individual’s choice to abide by disregard the rule. I guess when ignored the reasons why will possibly defines one’s character more than the rule itself.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 15/01/2023 12:44

Posted on 15/01/2023 11:55 by TimboC

I can't say that I have ever experienced any of those to the point where they have caused a nuisance. I had to ask someone to stop his dog continually barking once, but thats it. I was polite, and he was gracious.

 

Posted on 15/01/2023 12:44

Me either but they’re all rules that are ignored, that was the pt TC👍🏻.

Metheven replied on 15/01/2023 12:51

Posted on 15/01/2023 12:51

If they banned BBQs, then pitch invaders are welcome to set up Maypole dancing on my temporary bit of rental, and I'd provide the refreshments.

TimboC replied on 15/01/2023 15:04

Posted on 15/01/2023 12:44 by Rocky 2 buckets

Me either but they’re all rules that are ignored, that was the pt TC👍🏻.

Posted on 15/01/2023 15:04

And thats my point. They weren't ignored.

 

Tinwheeler replied on 15/01/2023 15:47

Posted on 15/01/2023 15:04 by TimboC

And thats my point. They weren't ignored.

 

Posted on 15/01/2023 15:47

Your earlier post implied they were ignored, Timbo, but not to the point of causing a nuisance.

I’m a little confused now.🤔

Cornersteady replied on 15/01/2023 16:14

Posted on 14/01/2023 22:54 by InaD

I think the design and layout DO sometimes contribute to people cutting across a pitch.  We've been on a pitch at Hawes, many years ago, where there were another couple of pitches diagonally behind ours. Rather than walking on the site road, the people on one of those pitchess just cut diagonally across from their pitch, across the grass, and onto ours, to then walk along the raod to where they were going.  It must have saved then a few yards and a few seconds undecided And there are other CAMC sites I can think of where I've seen people walk from their pitch across others, en route to the toiletblock, Wharfedale for one.

Posted on 15/01/2023 16:14

Well I don't think so at all.

A person chooses to break the rules not the design of the site. Just because it's easy to do so isn't really an excuse or a defense. It is just rude and unacceptable behaviour.

It's easy for my car (by design) to break the speed limit that it's me that has to press down the accelerator and decide to break the speed limit. 

Graydjames replied on 15/01/2023 16:23

Posted on 14/01/2023 17:35 by Rocky 2 buckets

I have no issues with cutting across pitches. I don’t think you are rude just living in the past. I’d love to buy beer at 1970’s prices but life changes with the years. You rent your space for x days & that is it. By getting stressed you are taking away from your own holiday/break. I’ve met folk & talked quite a while as they cut thru the pitch I was renting it has happened many many times too🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 15/01/2023 16:23

I find it sad that some of those posting here think it's OK to walk across other people's pitches. And, especially that those of us who still respect the good practice of not doing so are living in the past. I find that insulting. No wonder arguments sometimes get heated and personal in this place.

To me this attitude encapsulates the lack of respect in society today, especially among the younger generation, but also, seemingly, in some of those of older years.

Would you freely walk across other people's (unfenced) gardens when out on a walk? I doubt you would. And, yet, you yourself make the comment that you are renting your space for a period of time; that is exactly right. For those x days it is your space for which you have paid; the right to use it is your entitlement and not the entitlement of all-comers - just as your garden is your space. I certainly believe you should expect that space not to be made use of by people who are too lazy to take the proper route. Your analogy about the price of beer is also entirely misplaced. It is not the same thing at all. Of course, we'd all like to buy beer at 1970's prices, but how is that the same as losing the kind of respect for other people that once used to be more prevalent in British society.  

I do not think you have to walk across other people's pitches in order to be sociable and make friends. That is a poor excuse for invading someone else's space. I always talk to my neighbours or other passers-by given even only half a chance. I travel alone most of the time and being able to chat with other members and campers is really important to me. I am upset by those who ignore one or who refuse to make eye-contact. But I jolly well would not dream of walking across some one else's pitch in the hope or expectation that that will enable me to make contact. Instead I would expect to be frowned upon because, as SteveL quite rightly states above, to do this is just plain rude.

On a different point, I agree with Tinny that a rule about crossing other people's pitches is hard to enforce. However, I strongly disagree with the notion that a rule that is hard to enforce or which people regularly break should be done away with. Adopting such an approach, in more important matters of law and social cohesion, would lead to chaos.

I accept that walking on other people's pitches is a minor transgression, but I remain of the view that good manners and respect for others is such that it should not happen. It's no use telling those of us who are annoyed by it to chill as some have. It won't spoil my time away, but nor will I ever see it as acceptable behaviour.       

Cornersteady replied on 15/01/2023 17:17

Posted on 15/01/2023 17:17

Some people find it unacceptable that it happens and some are not and that's fine we all have different scales of what annoys and what doesn't and by how much, and how much privacy we expect, not that you can expect much on a campsite but I think someone walking so close as they can look into my caravan is breaking my privacy 'zone'. 

I always use hardstanding pitches and on the sites I use there's always a grass strip between pitches and if someone want to walk on that it's not my space or pitch and I don't mind that at all but stepping on 'my' gravel is literally overstepping the mark and shouldn't happen. Perhaps as I use a HS it is obvious where 'my' pitch starts and ends and perhaps not so obvious on grass but close enough to peer into as the OP writes is just wrong, in my view.

If it happened to me I would certainly have a very polite request not to do it.

Bonnymike replied on 15/01/2023 18:01

Posted on 15/01/2023 18:01

A while ago at Rookesbury Pk a male was actually clearing a way through the hedge at the rear of our pitch. Politely asked if he was new to the club as his actions were not acceptable. Didn,t come that way again although we received dirty looks for rest of week.

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