Types of CLs

I appreciate its individual choice and I'm not knocking that but where is the 'can do' attitude? 

I can understand why some would prefer hard-standings on a CL especially for motorhome owners.

My preference is for an all grass field but I have stayed at many CLs with hard standings, for me it is location, facilities and price that matter most.   

I can understand why some would prefer hard-standings on a CL especially for motorhome owners.

My preference is for an all grass field but I have stayed at many CLs with hard standings, for me it is location, facilities and price that matter most.   

Same for me, but must admit that during the winter or if it has been very wet we do like to use H/S pitches.

TW, - Rubbish.! 

You are letting yourself down.  I do not, and never will, try to impose my personal opinions on anyone else. Even you.

I suggest that you stop trying to put others down who's opinions you do not agree with. And take the personal element out of all debates.

Constructional debate can only be a good thing. And to recognise alternative views without descending into personal acrimony is even better.

TF

TW, - Rubbish.! 

You are letting yourself down.  I do not, and never will, try to impose my personal opinions on anyone else. Even you.

I suggest that you stop trying to put others down who's opinions you do not agree with. And take the personal element out of all debates.

Constructional debate can only be a good thing. And to recognise alternative views without descending into personal acrimony is even better.

TF

OK, TF, let's try to keep this factual rather than the along the lines of the pot calling kettle black personal comments the posts have become.

I honestly believe you have no idea that your posts often appear controlling and patronising. Let me give you some examples and explain my thoughts as we go.

You said "Hardstanding NOT wanted!". You shouted the word 'not' and it gave the appearance of stating a fact rather than your personal opinion. You followed this with "if a HS is essential for you, then stick to a CC site". Can you not see that has the tone of an order? It's probably unintended but that doesn't lessen the impact of the words.

Your reply to my first post was factually incorrect although I chose not to comment on that earlier. I have not taken personal umbrage with you or your words but speak from the indignation that arises due to the way you sometimes address us all. As for not previously commenting on my responses, you have done so on many an occasion.

Your last post started in an unfortunate way with "Rubbish.! ". I remember being taught at school that it was the height of rudeness to say that to someone rather than countering their points with reasoned debate. Within that post you say you are not trying to impose your opinions on others. That may well be the case but I've demonstrated above how the appearance can be to the contrary. Constructional debate is indeed good but a controlling attitude, even if unintentional, is not.

I think the point TF was trying to make is that CLs have a different ambience which generally don't include HS. If the pressure for 'singing and dancing CLs with HS' becomes overwhelming, it leaves no alternatives for those who would wish to retain simplicity as CLs would then have become the same as Club Sites, just smaller. I, for one, would mourn the passing of the simple CL.

I'm fairly new to the CC - 6 years or so - and I didn't have any preconceptions about CLs.  They are just 5 van sites and bound to vary immensely.

I look for location first, access from the road network second, facilities third and price fourth.  I prefer HS but can live with grass at the right price.

I don't see them as others do I don't think. I certainly don't look for rural areas, views, etc. 

I think the point TF was trying to make is that CLs have a different ambience ....

I never found a CL which had any sort of ambience at all. Just bits of fields, aren't they? 

I think the point TF was trying to make is that CLs have a different ambience ....

I never found a CL which had any sort of ambience at all. Just bits of fields, aren't they? 

 

EuT, don't diss the Bear Grylls LV'ers

We don't have a solar panel so ehu is important, also tap and waste disposal in the damper times of year a hard standing is also important.Farms are work places, animals and machinary are part of their enviroment, if you dont want to get muddy stay away other wise each to their own, use them or lose them.