New CL: fantasy price

henrypartridge replied on 08/09/2016 21:02

Posted on 08/09/2016 21:02

I've just read in the New CLs list in the club magazine, as they laughingly call the junk mail self advertising masquerading as a magazine, that there is a new CL at a garden centre in Northwich, Cheshire. The price is an eye watering £20 a night. Approaching club site price for a CL. Hope no one gives, pricing like this will destroy the whole ethos of the wonderful CL network. 

Fysherman replied on 09/10/2016 09:33

Posted on 09/10/2016 09:33

I cannot really comment about the prices Haven charge and if they are good value for money or just cheap because I have not stayed on one yet. 

Will sort that out before too long. I fancy that one Fisherman stayed on in North Wales. 

Need to see when they are open when I get 5mins 

JVB66 replied on 09/10/2016 09:39

Posted on 09/10/2016 09:39

 BB  I thought this thread is about CL "high"prices which is why I answered Fishermans post,

,please do not try your usual methods of posting before reading others correctlyUndecided

young thomas replied on 09/10/2016 09:48

Posted on 09/10/2016 09:48

 BB  I thought this thread is about CL "high"prices which is why I answered Fishermans post,

,please do not try your usual methods of posting before reading others correctlyUndecided

...but, you answered his post with a specific reason for low prices (your usual drivel about loss leaders) and then suggested that 'when it matters to the majority of users' their sites are too expensive.....i am querying that.

if you post this and I dont agree, i will tell you that i dont, and give my reasons why.....we are 'debating' arent we?

you post something to support a case,  others agree or disagree, and if disagreeing, generally give their supporting case.

i thought that was what happened above?.....no?Happy

JVB66 replied on 09/10/2016 10:01

Posted on 09/10/2016 10:01

 BB  I thought this thread is about CL "high"prices which is why I answered Fishermans post,

,please do not try your usual methods of posting before reading others correctlyUndecided

...but, you answered his post with a specific reason for low prices (your usual drivel about loss leaders) and then suggested that 'when it matters to the majority of users' their sites are too expensive.....i am querying that.

if you post this and I dont agree, i will tell you that i dont, and give my reasons why.....we are 'debating' arent we?

you post something to support a case,  others agree or disagree, and if disagreeing, generally give their supporting case.

i thought that was what happened above?.....no? 




...A CL price is what was being compared with The "loss leaders"of commercial organisation ,as you well know????  

young thomas replied on 09/10/2016 10:33

Posted on 09/10/2016 10:33

...and that was fine (a i said above, but you abviously didnt read) but then you went on to make a statement about Havens peak pricing affecting the 'majority of users' which imfelt was worthy of comment.....

if you dont want to debate that bit, then don't post it in the first place.....Undecided

Brierley replied on 09/10/2016 10:37

Posted on 09/10/2016 10:37

Write your comments here...I have put a post about catershill farm Pembrokeshire nr Narberth and Begelly.They offer a metered 16 amp pwer supply with coin operated slots.We having been cl owners are aware of usage and caravan with that in mind and turn things off when not in.We ran the fridge,and water heater where necessary and T.V..We were there 14 nights and put £9.00 in the slot all Holiday.The owners said the electric was priced at the rate they paid for it.The site fee was £12.00 pn .Showers.washing  macine,driers all reasonably priced coin operated.If these can price fairly why are the charging ridiculous fees for a C.L. 

But you are a conciderate user of electricity as anyone would be where it is being metered but the majority, I would hazard a guess, take the attitude they have paid for it so they are going to use it. The number of times I have seen awning heaters going full pelt with no one in them [I don't agree with their use even if someone is in them] or doors left open so the heat escapes. In my small way I use the electric plate on my cooker in preference to using the gas using the same mentality and I think that I am conciderate and don't waste electicity.

As far as I am concerned I use CLs for the only five vans exclusivity rather than big club sites and expect to have to pay for that exclusivity.

Write your comments here...It matters not what Electricity you use as long as you are prepared to pay for it with a metered system,At least with a meter providing the charging price is set at the standard rate and you can be as frugal or extravagant as you want and the site fee is un affected.This would eliminate the i've paid for it so i'll use /waste as much as i like. 

Brierley replied on 09/10/2016 10:55

Posted on 09/10/2016 10:55

Write your comments here...I have put a post about catershill farm Pembrokeshire nr Narberth and Begelly.They offer a metered 16 amp pwer supply with coin operated slots.We having been cl owners are aware of usage and caravan with that in mind and turn things off when not in.We ran the fridge,and water heater where necessary and T.V..We were there 14 nights and put £9.00 in the slot all Holiday.The owners said the electric was priced at the rate they paid for it.The site fee was £12.00 pn .Showers.washing  macine,driers all reasonably priced coin operated.If these can price fairly why are the charging ridiculous fees for a C.L. 

But you are a conciderate user of electricity as anyone would be where it is being metered but the majority, I would hazard a guess, take the attitude they have paid for it so they are going to use it. The number of times I have seen awning heaters going full pelt with no one in them [I don't agree with their use even if someone is in them] or doors left open so the heat escapes. In my small way I use the electric plate on my cooker in preference to using the gas using the same mentality and I think that I am conciderate and don't waste electicity.

As far as I am concerned I use CLs for the only five vans exclusivity rather than big club sites and expect to have to pay for that exclusivity.

Write your comments here...I think probably things have moved on since we started caravanning ,A nice mowed field ehu if availlable a cdp and fresh water and charged a reasonable rate.The new caravans come equipped with all manner of electric gizmos that gobble up electricity.The only way fo cl owners to keep pace with costs is to raise the site fees.

young thomas replied on 09/10/2016 11:05

Posted on 09/10/2016 11:05

but this is a myth....

all caravan and MH appliances 'do' run off electric but 'can' run from other power sources.

hobs and ovens are gas. heating and hot water runfar more efficiently of gas, as does the fridge/freezer.

lights, tv, water pump all run from 12v as do many chargers for phones, tablets etc.

it really isnt rocket science to use other sources....many stick with electric because theyve either 'paid for it' or they 'always use electric'.

so even think that gas is expensive (which it is) but do nothing about finding a cheaper source (gas at the pump is 25% of the cost of calor) and so 'stick' with mains electric, some blissfully unaware they they are being charged plenty for this service.

yes, its horses for courses, but, as you say, CL stays could be made far more attactive by having the electric cost take. out of the site fee and charged back to those that choose to use it...or not.

Fysherman replied on 09/10/2016 13:24

Posted on 09/10/2016 13:24

Caravans and MH's don't need 240v electricity from a hook up to function properly

The numbers of new caravans with Solar Panels is increasing year on year together with refilable gas systems.

All sites / clubs need to be ahead of the curve and recognise future trends not looking at what is the norm today then in a few years wonder what happened.

JVB66 replied on 09/10/2016 14:39

Posted on 09/10/2016 14:39

...and that was fine (a i said above, but you abviously didnt read) but then you went on to make a statement about Havens peak pricing affecting the 'majority of users' which imfelt was worthy of comment.....

if you dont want to debate that bit, then don't post it in the first place.....Undecided

...Silly statement again from yourself and off the topic that was being discussed Undecided

A CL is the same price as the thread is about not the "loss leaders that try to attract people away from others including Cls off peak, whereas the two clubs know that CLs and /Cs need buisiness and do not try to take their income away off peak

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