New CL: fantasy price

henrypartridge replied on 08/09/2016 21:02

Posted on 08/09/2016 21:02

I've just read in the New CLs list in the club magazine, as they laughingly call the junk mail self advertising masquerading as a magazine, that there is a new CL at a garden centre in Northwich, Cheshire. The price is an eye watering £20 a night. Approaching club site price for a CL. Hope no one gives, pricing like this will destroy the whole ethos of the wonderful CL network. 

Brierley replied on 10/10/2016 08:21

Posted on 10/10/2016 08:21

but this is a myth....

all caravan and MH appliances 'do' run off electric but 'can' run from other power sources.

hobs and ovens are gas. heating and hot water runfar more efficiently of gas, as does the fridge/freezer.

lights, tv, water pump all run from 12v as do many chargers for phones, tablets etc.

it really isnt rocket science to use other sources....many stick with electric because theyve either 'paid for it' or they 'always use electric'.

so even think that gas is expensive (which it is) but do nothing about finding a cheaper source (gas at the pump is 25% of the cost of calor) and so 'stick' with mains electric, some blissfully unaware they they are being charged plenty for this service.

yes, its horses for courses, but, as you say, CL stays could be made far more attactive by having the electric cost take. out of the site fee and charged back to those that choose to use it...or not.

Write your comments here...I've looked into running without hook up and have bought a sola panel and a quiet little generator.Next year i retire and would like to have more nights away a nice site offering drinking water cdp would do the job at a reasonable rate.I don't mind using gas.

Fisherman replied on 10/10/2016 09:00

Posted on 10/10/2016 09:00

It seems there is much more competition out there with new players in the CC concept type sites. The Cl network cant compete with these and perhaps trying to be mini club sites is not a good strategy. Guidance from the club should now be for Cls to return to their roots perhaps with some EHU and hard standings to lengthen the season. This can be achieved whilst still maintaining the price structure in what we users consider acceptable.  None of want to see a demise or further reduction in the Cl network but fear the trend is that way.

Fysherman replied on 10/10/2016 09:30

Posted on 10/10/2016 09:30

 

 

 

 

 

I've looked into running without hook up and have bought a sola panel and a quiet little generator.Next year i retire and would like to have more nights away a nice site offering drinking water cdp would do the job at a reasonable rate.I don't mind using gas.

Just out of interest, why a panel and a genny?

Supertractorman replied on 10/10/2016 10:25

Posted on 10/10/2016 10:25

It seems there is much more competition out there with new players in the CC concept type sites. The Cl network cant compete with these and perhaps trying to be mini club sites is not a good strategy. Guidance from the club should now be for Cls to return to their roots perhaps with some EHU and hard standings to lengthen the season. This can be achieved whilst still maintaining the price structure in what we users consider acceptable.  None of want to see a demise or further reduction in the Cl network but fear the trend is that way.

Write your comments here...

With local Councils being on a tight budget and with still having to promote tourism I believe it is easier to get Planning permission for your own caravan site, therefore those CL's that wish to expand and already have a large percentage of repeat CC members who are visiting, then this is their opportunity to go free and accept other campers in their area.  The time when they will leave is probably after a new directory is printed by CC as that still gives them 2 years free advertising.

David   www.perthshirecl.co.uk

oakapple replied on 10/10/2016 12:50

Posted on 10/10/2016 12:50

It seems there is much more competition out there with new players in the CC concept type sites. The Cl network cant compete with these and perhaps trying to be mini club sites is not a good strategy. Guidance from the club should now be for Cls to return to their roots perhaps with some EHU and hard standings to lengthen the season. This can be achieved whilst still maintaining the price structure in what we users consider acceptable.  None of want to see a demise or further reduction in the Cl network but fear the trend is that way.

As you say Fisherman, CLs can’t compete with commercial sites. It’s all a matter of scale.  

As far as setting up a CL it is up to the owner to decide what sort of CL is appropriate for them. I don’t think there is any guidance from the CC. Putting electric hook-ups and hard standings in to extend the season is going to cost an enormous amount. It would also then be classed as a developed site according to the rating system thus increasing the business rate.  Each CL will have differing set up and running costs so I don’t believe there can ever be a set rate for each type of CL, there are so many variables as there are too in the amount members are willing to pay.

  Running a CL is all about charging acceptable fees to members but also making an acceptable profit for the owner and they are the ones that are most aware of that, after all no one can expect an owner to run at a loss, that is not in anyone’s interest.

nelliethehooker replied on 10/10/2016 19:20

Posted on 10/10/2016 19:20

For comparison to the fancy prices some new CLs are trying to charge we've just arrived on a CL with H/S pitches and EHU, quiet with easy access, although only a mile from a motorway, and great views, whose price is just £9 pn. Was informed by the owner that he has already got 400 nights booked for next year!! Just maybe that's the way to go.

harryb replied on 21/10/2016 18:25

Posted on 21/10/2016 18:25

This months new additions to the network. 10 new. Most between £12 & £15 with ehu. 2 at a staggering £20 but with all facilities and 1 with ehu and shower £6

Can the last one be true. Bet people will be queuing up by now.

harryb replied on 21/10/2016 19:48

Posted on 21/10/2016 19:48

All cl prices are stated as "from". That is the norm and it is maybe a way of allowing the cl owner to up his prices before the nest edition of the handbook comes out, The handbook states, "you should check with the site owner".

Personally I think £6 is a misprint.

nelliethehooker replied on 21/10/2016 20:24

Posted on 21/10/2016 20:24

This months new additions to the network. 10 new. Most between £12 & £15 with ehu. 2 at a staggering £20 but with all facilities and 1 with ehu and shower £6

Can the last one be true. Bet people will be queuing up by now.

Are they listed yet in the New CL section? What's the name of the one that's £6?

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