New CL: fantasy price

Thank you for that informative post, CG. 

Fysh's point of average site fees rising is a concern to many but I think the prices charged by CLs must surely reflect the economy of their geographical location and the prices charged by similar sites. I do not think there is a one size fits all system for pricing even with like for like sites. With respect, your CL is in a prosperous area and you are, therefore, possibly able to charge more than similar sites in other areas. Indeed, you may need to charge more if your operating costs are greater. 

With regard to support from CC, there is quite likely more that could be done. CC let CL owners, and members, down badly this year with the failure of its website. CLs are restricted to taking CC members only and then the platform for viewing the sites was no longer there. As you well know, several CLs looked to publicising themselves on other websites and there were reports of bookings being down. Personally, I have little faith in CC giving more support but wish you all well.

Thank you for your support.  I'll continue to listen to all comers and provide feedback ti the Club in my capacity as a Champion of CL Visitors and CL Owners.  

With regard to Questions at the AGM, the Club is very open to questions and I'd recommend that you attend and ask a question if you feel strongly about an issue.  It's how I started to get involved.  All questions are recoded in the Minutes which are online for anyone to read.

Thanks for the informative replies, I haven't contributed much to this thread but have read it all with interest.

last two posts have hinted at why small site prices have crept up....electricity...

the investment to do this over and above a similar (but, say, very nicely) mown and kept field, is considerable...

this has to be got back from customers, and it may be that they want that return back reasonably quickly....so this will add to prices.

then there are the 'demands' for showers and toilets....again, often more investment needed, and these small places dont have the economies of scale that the club has to 'work on' costs....

a simple (well kept, well drained) field/garden/meadow can be a lovely place to stay....usually at a sensible price....£10 or less in its native form.... 

start ramping up unnecessary facilities with 'electric, showers, toilets' and that cost will move accordingly.....

visit any number of CCC THS (temp hol sites) which, in effect, are CL-type accommodation but for larger numbers, and these come in at around £8-£9 a night....more akin to an untainted 5-van site....

start changing all this into mini club sites and the cost will soon be on a par.....

no thanks.

Write your comments here...I have put a post about catershill farm Pembrokeshire nr Narberth and Begelly.They offer a metered 16 amp pwer supply with coin operated slots.We having been cl owners are aware of usage and caravan with that in mind and turn things off when not in.We ran the fridge,and water heater where necessary and T.V..We were there 14 nights and put £9.00 in the slot all Holiday.The owners said the electric was priced at the rate they paid for it.The site fee was £12.00 pn .Showers.washing  macine,driers all reasonably priced coin operated.If these can price fairly why are the charging ridiculous fees for a C.L. 

Write your comments here...I have put a post about catershill farm Pembrokeshire nr Narberth and Begelly.They offer a metered 16 amp pwer supply with coin operated slots.We having been cl owners are aware of usage and caravan with that in mind and turn things off when not in.We ran the fridge,and water heater where necessary and T.V..We were there 14 nights and put £9.00 in the slot all Holiday.The owners said the electric was priced at the rate they paid for it.The site fee was £12.00 pn .Showers.washing  macine,driers all reasonably priced coin operated.If these can price fairly why are the charging ridiculous fees for a C.L. 

But you are a conciderate user of electricity as anyone would be where it is being metered but the majority, I would hazard a guess, take the attitude they have paid for it so they are going to use it. The number of times I have seen awning heaters going full pelt with no one in them [I don't agree with their use even if someone is in them] or doors left open so the heat escapes. In my small way I use the electric plate on my cooker in preference to using the gas using the same mentality and I think that I am conciderate and don't waste electicity.

As far as I am concerned I use CLs for the only five vans exclusivity rather than big club sites and expect to have to pay for that exclusivity.

Brierly- I would have no problem with that type of site and at those prices.If they can do it why do the others need to charge so much? Just back from Haven at £9-80per night all in, no contests to look for a CL in the Lleyn Peninsular at their prices.

Brierly- I would have no problem with that type of site and at those prices.If they can do it why do the others need to charge so much? Just back from Haven at £9-80per night all in, no contests to look for a CL in the Lleyn Peninsular at their prices.

..But how would a Cl compare when Haven are not running their loss leader prices

Its not prices per se. Reasonably priced Cls in the right area would beat Haven for us..Its those at £15+ that I compare with Haven and dont use.

Its not prices per se. Reasonably priced Cls in the right area would beat Haven for us..Its those at £15+ that I compare with Haven and dont use.

. ..But only because of Haven and other commercial sites loss leaders off peak ,that give a distorted idea that they are normaaly cheaper,   when in fact they are more expensive than everywhere else,,  when it matters to the majority of users 

Its not prices per se. Reasonably priced Cls in the right area would beat Haven for us..Its those at £15+ that I compare with Haven and dont use.

. ..But only because of Haven and other commercial sites loss leaders off peak ,that give a distorted idea that they are normaaly cheaper,   when in fact they are more expensive than everywhere else,,  when it matters to the majority of users 

.....but is it 'the majority......'?

the haven prices are dear only in a few periods of the year, and there is a finite number of users that can get on site in those periods.

there are very many other weeks in the year where very many take advantage of those lower prices.

add up the number of pitch nights and ill wager there are as many used out of 'peak' as there are in those few peak weeks.

you keep banging on about loss leaders, somehow suggesting that these prices (for 75%) of thei season arent 'real'...it matters no one whit as to what the price level 'should be' in your eyes, haven have shown that to get the punters in (something not happening much midweek, off peak on many CC sites) a strategy is needed.....good facilities at a good price.

the CC strategy is continually charge more.....