Increase size of CLs?

you only have to witness the success of the CCC THS program  (where you get a pitch, water and waste points, usuually in a field.....at around £8 a night..) to see that the demand is still there.....

BB do you know for a fact that these rally type of events are a success? There was a West Wales Rally on a CS field near us last weekend and there could not have been more than 6 vans on it. I certainly not call that a success!!

Hi TDA.

Are you sure you are not looking at a rally rather than a THS?

Most THS's are not on CS sites they are on rugby fields, farmers fields and other interesting locations that are not regularly used for camping . We find ourselves using  THS's more and more and every one we have visited so far have been very well attended.

Fysherman, it was I that posted the above comment. It was definitely a CC Centre Rally, as I stated. However we have seen, in the past, numerous THS which have only had a few vans on them. 

Interesting that it was a CC rally. Low attendance because of the requirement to pre-book perhaps?

The THSs we've been to have been generally well attended but, thinking back, the fact that they run for extended periods, with people coming and going, means that attendance has been (temporarily) sparse at some from time to time.

Coming back onto thread a bit, there have been occasions when we have been the only van on a CL/CS. One, in particular was simply a farm field with fresh water and waste facilities. The owner could run at a profit, even on low attendance, because expenses were low. She had resisted several calls from the CC to install EHU points (on the assumed grounds that bookings would increase). I saw her point because it would have taken years to recoup the cost (assuming it would eventually have been recouped).

Graham

Its a difficult decision for Cls to move from the original field corner, occasiinally mowed to a site now required by most users, ie EHU and often  some hard standing. The cost even on a DIY basis is significant as is the  necessity to have annual eletrical inspctions ETC. I feel the biggest constraint is the 5 van rule which so limits income . Many Cls are in fields of over an acre and these can easily accommodate 8/10 vans with plenty of roomThere could be a ase for different types of CL depending sayon size.From my experience obtaining the necessary planning permission is not a problem and the worry of seeking a change to a rule which is 50 years old is overstated.

There's another thread running saying that the Club can't make money at one of its main sites with 22 pitches, can't afford to staff it, and can only run it with unpaid volunteers - yet the Club encourages owners to set up a site with a 5 van limit. 

we recently had a quote of 14k just to get electric into the field add to that approx 2k in bollards etc and its an expensive ubdertakung. Therefore we opted to spend a few hundred on new fences, gedges and improving the overall look of the site with the theory that many are moving onto solar etc and prefer not to pay for electric. Time will tell.

With the costs you quote new sites go straight to planning to make the cost worthwhile.In the scale of things the planning fee is minute and provided access is OK small scale sites get nodded through.

With the costs you quote new sites go straight to planning to make the cost worthwhile.In the scale of things the planning fee is minute and provided access is OK small scale sites get nodded through.

...They might in Welshland but not in England

There's another thread running saying that the Club can't make money at one of its main sites with 22 pitches, can't afford to staff it, and can only run it with unpaid volunteers - yet the Club encourages owners to set up a site with a 5 van limit. 

...Because until the legislation is changed they are not allowed to give permision for any more 

With the costs you quote new sites go straight to planning to make the cost worthwhile.In the scale of things the planning fee is minute and provided access is OK small scale sites get nodded through.

...They might in Welshland but not in England

It's not true in Wales either but it's not worth the debate.  Anyone trying to get planning permission in Wales will find out soon enough how much work has to be done before anything is near approval

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