Increase size of CLs?

erbert replied on 14/06/2016 11:00

Posted on 14/06/2016 11:00

Why Are CLs only allowed 5 vans, is it the government, local councils? If so perhaps the Club could lobby for an increase.

Isn't it time CLs were given permission to have more than 5 vans, many do anyway unofficially!

Perhaps it could be allowed to double to 10 vans, but only if they had a certain acreage?

I wouldn't like to see them over stuffed with vans but it would help both caraanners have more choice and scope and perhaps make it more financialily viable for owners.

 

 

Takethedogalong replied on 05/08/2016 10:59

Posted on 05/08/2016 10:59

Sorry one and all.Embarassed I certainly got the wrong site. Seems there are 2 sites with a very similar name - Mount Pleasant - at Redruth. Stuh's web site - http://www.caravan-club-cornwall.co.uk/ - does show the site as having EHU.

Easy mistake to make Nellie. I was pointing out to Stuh that he needs to make sure Club amends his site to show EHU available at the first search, as it will not come up, therefore I would miss his site at first search, even though his website shows he does have EHU. He might have done this and just waiting on Club to amend on Club website?Happy

Stuh01 replied on 05/08/2016 18:33

Posted on 05/08/2016 18:33

Sorry one and all.Embarassed I certainly got the wrong site. Seems there are 2 sites with a very similar name - Mount Pleasant - at Redruth. Stuh's web site - http://www.caravan-club-cornwall.co.uk/ - does show the site as having EHU.

Easy mistake to make Nellie. I was pointing out to Stuh that he needs to make sure Club amends his site to show EHU available at the first search, as it will not come up, therefore I would miss his site at first search, even though his website shows he does have EHU. He might have done this and just waiting on Club to amend on Club website?Happy

yes in the process of getting it updated - Thanks

Stuh01 replied on 05/08/2016 18:50

Posted on 05/08/2016 18:50

As Supertractorman made the statement and already has a successful CL, Stu, I guess he has a fair idea of what's involved.

I also have a succesful CL, I know whats involved and despite all the electrical work being done by a friend the materials costs alone (event at trade price) was significant given the return - I dont do it to make money but implying the CL owners are exadgerating the costs is quite frankly a bit offensive!

The cost of installing these facilities will vary hugely depending on how big the CL is, where the nearest services are located and if the connection is suitable under current regulations....  enough said about it now anyway. 

 

I don't see anything offensive, Stu. Most farmers have equipment, such as tractors and diggers, and materials, such as hard core, already to hand and may not have had to incur the expense that you have if you don't have these items. STM will have been speaking from his own experience as you spoke from yours.

Write your comments here...

Seems I opened a can of worms, but I was only trying to say if you want to be creative it need not cost too much. I have proper armoured cable, 2 Caravan approved mounting posts with all breakers and coupled to our house electrics to take benefit from my solar panels. My Hard standings use lumps of concrete from the runways of an old airfield covered with clean 20 ml stone. The digger I bought for £1800 was sold for £2000 !!. In making these statements I would like to encourage more folks to consider having their own CL to give me more to visit while numbers are getting less and it is not as hard or as expensive to do.

On a final point the main question I get on the phone is do you have Hard Standings, Electrics and do you take dogs. With 70% + repeat business I don't want more pitches, it is for us a retired persons hobby, but always wanting to increase business each year.

David   www.perthshirecl.co.uk

Not to worry, maybe i jumped off on one as well Wink - I just read it in the wrong context i guess!

Supertractorman replied on 05/08/2016 22:15

Posted on 05/08/2016 22:15

Possibly Hard Standings need more definition, as I have a mix with some laid as 2 strips in the middle of grass and others as a large square with grass at the sides, which enables vans to park on the edge and erect awnings on the grass.  All parking areas are connected by roadways so no risk of driving on the grass and getting stuck in wet weather.  I have also stayed on what was classed as Hard Standing which was 2 paving slabs set in a field, but how you got to them or away from them if you had a wet night could well have been a problem.

David  www.perthshirecl.co.uk

mhparking replied on 06/08/2016 14:49

Posted on 06/08/2016 14:49

you only have to witness the success of the CCC THS program  (where you get a pitch, water and waste points, usuually in a field.....at around £8 a night..) to see that the demand is still there.....

BB do you know for a fact that these rally type of events are a success? There was a West Wales Rally on a CS field near us last weekend and there could not have been more than 6 vans on it. I certainly not call that a success!!

ive been on a dozen or so over the past three years and can only speak as i find.....

there are others on CT who use them, they might have a view..

Our experience is similar. Indeed, we've just come back from a trip where we stayed on two THSs (Dalkeith Country Park & Alnwick Rugby Club) and passed another (Beadnell Bay), all of which were well attended.

We do most of our camping these days on THSs and rallies (43 THSs/Rallies in 2014/15/16 so far) organised by the C&CC and MCC. A minority of weekend rallies have only a few vans but the majority are very well attended.

One of the great attractions to us is that all but a few require no booking. Just turn up and stay for as many nights as you wish (great when caring duties mean that there is a high risk of having to cancel prior bookings).They are also well publicised in the monthly magazines (especially handy for identifying options when one is on a tour and Internet access is sparse).

I often wonder why the CC centres aren't able to work in such a free and easy (and successful) manner rather than insisting on advance booking (especially when there is no advance publicity in the monthly magazine).

Graham

Fysherman replied on 07/08/2016 11:00

Posted on 07/08/2016 11:00

you only have to witness the success of the CCC THS program  (where you get a pitch, water and waste points, usuually in a field.....at around £8 a night..) to see that the demand is still there.....

BB do you know for a fact that these rally type of events are a success? There was a West Wales Rally on a CS field near us last weekend and there could not have been more than 6 vans on it. I certainly not call that a success!!

Hi TDA.

Are you sure you are not looking at a rally rather than a THS?

Most THS's are not on CS sites they are on rugby fields, farmers fields and other interesting locations that are not regularly used for camping . We find ourselves using  THS's more and more and every one we have visited so far have been very well attended.

Fysherman replied on 07/08/2016 11:09

Posted on 07/08/2016 11:09

Hardstandings will destroy the whole concept of CL's

TF

That statement is complete twaddle, TF. Sorry, but it is. How on earth can a bit of hardcore ruin the concept of CLs? 

Many CLs already have HS and they don't necessarily have to be the pristine manicured variety as used by CC. HS encourage me to use CLs whereas grass and mud send me elsewhere.

I am not so sure.

If hardstandings are in place then naturally you are likely to be expected to use them. They then become the place the EHU''s go further tying the unit to the hard standing. These hardstandings are so often all together in a line to keep installation costs down then at that point you might as well be like sardines on a cramped club site.

I don't think we are that unusual but we want to go anywhere in the field that we choose. More often than not its the lumpy bit on a slope that only those with a bit of practise behind them can level up properly. We usually find then we have few people camping nearby. 

Tinwheeler replied on 07/08/2016 16:53

Posted on 07/08/2016 16:53

Hardstandings will destroy the whole concept of CL's

TF

That statement is complete twaddle, TF. Sorry, but it is. How on earth can a bit of hardcore ruin the concept of CLs? 

Many CLs already have HS and they don't necessarily have to be the pristine manicured variety as used by CC. HS encourage me to use CLs whereas grass and mud send me elsewhere.

I am not so sure.

If hardstandings are in place then naturally you are likely to be expected to use them. They then become the place the EHU''s go further tying the unit to the hard standing. These hardstandings are so often all together in a line to keep installation costs down then at that point you might as well be like sardines on a cramped club site.

I don't think we are that unusual but we want to go anywhere in the field that we choose. More often than not its the lumpy bit on a slope that only those with a bit of practise behind them can level up properly. We usually find then we have few people camping nearby. 

I understand, Fysh. Some of us like grass and some prefer HS. As I said, there is room for all types and long may it be so.

TF clearly prefers grass and that is his choice, as it is yours. HS provision might destroy someone's ideal vision of a CL but it cannot destroy the whole concept of CLs. 

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nelliethehooker replied on 07/08/2016 21:00

Posted on 07/08/2016 21:00

you only have to witness the success of the CCC THS program  (where you get a pitch, water and waste points, usuually in a field.....at around £8 a night..) to see that the demand is still there.....

BB do you know for a fact that these rally type of events are a success? There was a West Wales Rally on a CS field near us last weekend and there could not have been more than 6 vans on it. I certainly not call that a success!!

Hi TDA.

Are you sure you are not looking at a rally rather than a THS?

Most THS's are not on CS sites they are on rugby fields, farmers fields and other interesting locations that are not regularly used for camping . We find ourselves using  THS's more and more and every one we have visited so far have been very well attended.

Fysherman, it was I that posted the above comment. It was definitely a CC Centre Rally, as I stated. However we have seen, in the past, numerous THS which have only had a few vans on them. 

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