CL's pricing themselves as sites?

I do wish some Members (who possibly have a very limited experience of using CLs) would stop doing many of these wonderful little places a disservice. They aren’t for everyone, and ok, some might not be the height of touring luxury, but the vast majority are very nice, encompass a wide range of types, and are generally run by welcoming, hard working, pleasant people.

More often than not, if someone experiences issues with a CL, it’s more about the user than the CL itself.......

If it is used? ,how many post on here about not wanting just a basic CL it seems most want at least EHU and now it seems by posts, to cater for motor caravans Hardstanding is needed 

That is as posted a lot of set up costs, for some not any chance of a return for a long time, I would not call that an investment worth it

I can remember when some fried ds of ours were warden at Clumber Park ,which is very often full at weekends  If someone phoned for a Weekend they advised of a local CL that had ehu , who was very pleased of the business, as they proved later in the year 

I am not a CL owner so I have no idea how they think although I imagine few of them are altruistic enough just to provide a CL for the good of it? My point to the OP was that he seemed to want something for the lowest possible cost without understanding the costs of setting up a CL and ongoing running costs. To me £15 a night seems a perfectly reasonable amount of money to spend on a CL but anything less would seem to me totally uneconomic. In his costs below your post Ted points out the likely costs of setting up a CL. Some might think that a CL owner is doing well if the get perhaps £5000/10000 a year from their CL venture. I can understand where a CL is part of a larger business like a farm the extra income could be quite useful. What the unsuspecting amateur might not appreciate is the need to be available on site for reasonable periods of the day, the day to day administration and don't forget the tax return all things they perhaps did not have experience of before retirement. I appreciate your point that perhaps the business model is not what you might apply other types of business but neither should it be a charity. If CL owners don't get at least a reasonable return on the work they put in they will just give up and we will lose more. A couple of years ago we went to a lovely CL near Beccles, right on the river in the grounds of a boatyard. That CL has now closed and the owner has added a static pod on what was the CL and probably earns as much from that as he did the CL so even £15 a night might not be enough to sustain CL's in the future? 

David

As far as motorhome owners are concerned, the competion is also increasing, e;.g Pub Stops, Britstops and now CAMpRA (motorhome aires) It should at least help keep costs down.

peedee

Good point  - and maybe they are exactly the sorts of places that Gary should be heading for to get his "fresh water fill". Leave CLs to those who like to use them for the very purpose for which they are intended! 👍

...arent they 'intended' for all members to use within the auspices of the  exemption certification?

if that means a short stop for some, and leaving with a full tank of water, then thats fine by me if its fine with the owner.

fee paid, no rules broken, why would this be an issue for anyone?

I rather thought the OP's point was that he was not prepared to pay the fee.  

Given the OP is from Cumberland, perhaps he hasn't ventured out since 1974 (when it became Cumbria) and is therefore a little out of touch with current prices? 

my post only covers a 6 mth period in a dry well drained area...no need for hardstanding and i would certainly expect a hook up included in a £15 fee. 

investment levels on a site with an existing business (and nearby services) will be far less than a 'green field' start up.

from my booking conversations with CL owners, and the fact that the ones we used were full the whole time we were on them, id say there is still a market for a quiet site....CL or perhaps no facs sites.

Covid has certainly got some folk who would 'never' use their own toilet, out on the road making use of the kit they have on board.

i rather thought he was happy to use a CL but was surprised that prices were higher than he expected and that he couldnt find one for under £15.

certainly no indication that he was going to use the site (should he be able to find one at his price level) for anything other than what it was 'intended' for.

ive stayed on a CL for one night and ive filled the water tank prior to moving on...is there something wrong with this? I thought that was what they were 'intended' for?

...or should i have stayed longer?....or not filled with water?.....or.....