So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

replied on 13/03/2019 22:35

Posted on 13/03/2019 21:33 by Takethedogalong

Just had a glance at a few Club Sites, mainly ones we have used, and Devon and Cornwall. I didn’t look at AS sites. Somewhat to my surprise, not many have a LNA area! On the plus side, some have none electric pitches. But the price is still high on some without electric, one instance was over £18 for a couple, no hook up. On grass as well. That makes a lot of CLs much better value for money, provided of course you are happy using own facilities.

 

Posted on 13/03/2019 22:35

over £18 for a couple, no hook up. On grass as well. That makes a lot of CLs much better value for money

If you compare costs of facility and none facility sites a couple are probably paying £10 for the facilities. 

replied on 13/03/2019 22:39

Posted on 13/03/2019 22:39

The choice of using EHU would certainly go a long way to satisfying myself. I have always seen the fitting of electricity meters as being the way forward, even if it is only on a few pitches. It still means members wanting electricity could still use them paying as they do now for it to be included in the pitch fee or paying by the Kwh

Great idea. Metered in summer when usage is low and all you can eat in winter.

replied on 13/03/2019 22:48

Posted on 13/03/2019 22:48

Allow members to call in a site for a fee to use the MSVPs. I see this complimenting CL usage and make them more attractive to Motorhomers. It isn't always easy to use facilities on a CL. (there are nearly a 1000 CLs offering hard standing which motorhomers could use)

Are you trying to say that these fully contained, no facilities needed, go anywhere, sleep anywhere motorhomers cannot manage on a basic CL? Sounds like either the wrong choice of RV or the wrong choice of site. Or maybe they need a waste water carrier? 

Takethedogalong replied on 13/03/2019 23:31

Posted on 13/03/2019 23:31

Some can ET. Some carry pipes to allow waste water to soak away in hedgerow with CL owners permission. Some also carry a fold up bucket..... 😁

replied on 13/03/2019 23:34

Posted on 13/03/2019 23:31 by Takethedogalong

Some can ET. Some carry pipes to allow waste water to soak away in hedgerow with CL owners permission. Some also carry a fold up bucket..... 😁

Posted on 13/03/2019 23:34

Exactly TDA but 1% of the population expect everybody else to solve their self induced problems at little cost to themselves. wink

replied on 14/03/2019 07:05

Posted on 14/03/2019 07:05

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replied on 14/03/2019 07:14

Posted on 13/03/2019 22:39 by

The choice of using EHU would certainly go a long way to satisfying myself. I have always seen the fitting of electricity meters as being the way forward, even if it is only on a few pitches. It still means members wanting electricity could still use them paying as they do now for it to be included in the pitch fee or paying by the Kwh

Great idea. Metered in summer when usage is low and all you can eat in winter.

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replied on 14/03/2019 07:21

Posted on 14/03/2019 07:14 by

I have used metered sites and will be doing again shortly but only because the sites in question have  other features that cause us tolerate it ,we just hate itsurprised

Posted on 14/03/2019 07:21

I would not want it either David. 

moulesy replied on 14/03/2019 08:14

Posted on 14/03/2019 07:21 by

I would not want it either David. 

Posted on 14/03/2019 08:14

Nor me!

And, although we probably use considerably less electricity than the average, I still fail to see why the expense and complication of metering is preferable to the option, for the small number who want it, of declining EHU altogether. Just imagine a popular site like say,  Broadway with several units calling at reception to give in meter readings and pay between say, 11:30 and 12 whilst a whole lot of others are queuing waiting to check in - a warden's nightmare surely? undecided

SteveL replied on 14/03/2019 08:29

Posted on 14/03/2019 08:29

It would not bother us either way now. Our caravan was not equipped for off grid, our MH is. We have been playing about with it and would have no problem going for several days. Everything we require runs on 12 volt or gas. If doing without on a standard pitch was on offer, we would certainly give it a go. However, I am quite happy to continue using CC sites under the current arrangements. I certainly would not want or expect them to go to great expense installing meters, just so I could plug in if I fancied it.

Personally I think in the longer term, as more EV's appear on sites, meters are inevitable. However, it would make sense to install them as older ones require replacing, even if not initially used. 

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