So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Takethedogalong replied on 13/03/2019 15:38

Posted on 13/03/2019 15:38

Hmm..... put in ANPR system, which is linked to a booking/reg number (your words). Doesn’t this somewhat negate your wish for spontaneity BB? Surely that is some form of booking? The only plus I can see from that is that you could technically arrive at any time, rather than before 8pm. Up to 8pm you can still get onto a site, you just leave your membership card with reception. We often push the arrival limits, have done a good few 7.55pm arrivals. But we let reception know, happy to go with whatever pitch is vacant, and just turn up bright and cheerful at 9am next morning. Same whether you are a caravan or a MH. If we know our arrival is likely to be after 8pm, we make other arrangements, either in van or MH. Could be a very obliging CL/CS, might be a quiet little hideaway we have clocked on previous journeys. Or a pub, have a meal, can we park, job done. We don’t consider towns safe, too many lowlifes, vandals tend to be hanging around. But a nice quiet lay-by, out in the country, well back off a road, almost disguised......that is tempting.   We know a little peach in Cotswolds, even has its own very nice Greasy Spoon for breakfast. Have used it dozens of times, mainly with caravan. Sadly too full of HGVs nowadays.

Cornersteady replied on 13/03/2019 15:40

Posted on 13/03/2019 14:25 by young thomas

the ones we've been on recognise all nationalities of plates....locals and Brits, Germans, French, Dutch et all.....why wouldn't they?

Posted on 13/03/2019 15:40

well I thought because they all have different formats and fonts, but impressive. I did read that NCP car parks had trouble with some foreign reg cars. Perhaps they had the same IT people as the club.

Cornersteady replied on 13/03/2019 15:43

Posted on 13/03/2019 14:38 by

The one at T campo struggled with my personalized plate  and we regularly had to press the button but then the APNR on the A26 couldnt read it eithercool

Posted on 13/03/2019 15:43

There is a car park in Grasmere that never gets our (personal) registration, but I still pay up. (I like the lakes)

young thomas replied on 13/03/2019 16:02

Posted on 13/03/2019 15:38 by Takethedogalong

Hmm..... put in ANPR system, which is linked to a booking/reg number (your words). Doesn’t this somewhat negate your wish for spontaneity BB? Surely that is some form of booking? The only plus I can see from that is that you could technically arrive at any time, rather than before 8pm. Up to 8pm you can still get onto a site, you just leave your membership card with reception. We often push the arrival limits, have done a good few 7.55pm arrivals. But we let reception know, happy to go with whatever pitch is vacant, and just turn up bright and cheerful at 9am next morning. Same whether you are a caravan or a MH. If we know our arrival is likely to be after 8pm, we make other arrangements, either in van or MH. Could be a very obliging CL/CS, might be a quiet little hideaway we have clocked on previous journeys. Or a pub, have a meal, can we park, job done. We don’t consider towns safe, too many lowlifes, vandals tend to be hanging around. But a nice quiet lay-by, out in the country, well back off a road, almost disguised......that is tempting.   We know a little peach in Cotswolds, even has its own very nice Greasy Spoon for breakfast. Have used it dozens of times, mainly with caravan. Sadly too full of HGVs nowadays.

Posted on 13/03/2019 16:02

I did suggest that these quick fire pitches could be booked but within a short time frame of using them...and have a max stay

the thing is, if we have to change a few processes or introduce a bit of technology to make it work, so be it..

obviously, on (say) a French barrier controlled aire, there's no need to book....if it's full (unlikely in most places) bad luck...the entry is given via card payment..but cc can't have all and sundry entering their sites, even if they've paid...after all, they could be anyone....so this is a service that would have to be for members who have some form of ID....easy enough (for most businesses) to read a membership card and/or credit card linked to members account, including payment' prior to entry...

it really isn't difficult to do despite 101 'reasons' for not doing it, they're all surmountable...

the biggest issue (by a mile) is the required change of mindsetundecided

JayOutdoors replied on 13/03/2019 16:47

Posted on 13/03/2019 16:47

IMHO providing ‘Nightstops’ purely for M’homes would create inequality towards other members of the club with different leisure outfits and therefore not a fair way to use the club’s money/resoiurces.  

Tinwheeler replied on 13/03/2019 16:54

Posted on 13/03/2019 16:47 by JayOutdoors

IMHO providing ‘Nightstops’ purely for M’homes would create inequality towards other members of the club with different leisure outfits and therefore not a fair way to use the club’s money/resoiurces.  

Posted on 13/03/2019 16:54

Yep, I’ve been saying that for 85 pages.👍🏻👍🏻

eurortraveller replied on 13/03/2019 17:04

Posted on 13/03/2019 16:47 by JayOutdoors

IMHO providing ‘Nightstops’ purely for M’homes would create inequality towards other members of the club with different leisure outfits and therefore not a fair way to use the club’s money/resoiurces.  

Posted on 13/03/2019 17:04

My experience is that it would free up space on Club sites for those who prefer to use them. 

moulesy replied on 13/03/2019 17:11

Posted on 13/03/2019 17:04 by eurortraveller

My experience is that it would free up space on Club sites for those who prefer to use them. 

Posted on 13/03/2019 17:11

You have "experience" on club sites, et? undecided

JVB66 replied on 13/03/2019 17:14

Posted on 13/03/2019 17:04 by eurortraveller

My experience is that it would free up space on Club sites for those who prefer to use them. 

Posted on 13/03/2019 17:14

But your posts normally say how many pitches are already availabl with "under used" club sites so it is another reason they are not neededsurprised

young thomas replied on 13/03/2019 18:06

Posted on 13/03/2019 16:47 by JayOutdoors

IMHO providing ‘Nightstops’ purely for M’homes would create inequality towards other members of the club with different leisure outfits and therefore not a fair way to use the club’s money/resoiurces.  

Posted on 13/03/2019 18:06

they would be for caravanners, too....smile

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