So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

rayjsj replied on 13/03/2019 11:48

Posted on 12/03/2019 21:32 by DaisyK1

Late night arrivals are strictly for that purpose. TO  give a place for a booked pitch where the arrival has been delayed by unexpected circumstances And in no way should they be used FOR ANY OTHER REASON.

Posted on 13/03/2019 11:48

Why ? they are mostly standing empty ? they COULD be generating capital for the site.

Strictly max 2 nights stay at a reduced rate, not JUST for Motorhomes, Caravans too. Great when breaking up a long journey, AND means pitches onsite can be freed up from single night stayers.

Just a thought.

GVD replied on 13/03/2019 12:37

Posted on 13/03/2019 12:37

Being a caravanner for nigh on 40 years I know my place, and thoroughly enjoy caravanning in the UK and abroad. It looks as if "aires" have been mentioned. Just spoken to a motorhomer who recently stayed at the leisure centre inn Stratford upon Avon, at £10 for 24hrs. and £20 for 72hrs. using their facilities. That is not "open" for us caravanners, however I presume that we are more than happy in "planning" where to go and stay, using the readily available campsites.

So if people look, there are facilities similar to "aires" in the UK!

Takethedogalong replied on 13/03/2019 13:03

Posted on 13/03/2019 13:03

Crikey, that’s gone up a bit! We used that overnight stop three years ago, 8pm to 8am and it was only £2. Assuming your friend paid for whole day of course. It was just a safe sleep stop for us, we were back on road early, off for breakfast at Evesham Country Park. Glad to hear it’s still there, it’s on our regular route to SW. Easy walk into town from there.

Edit: found this link for it. Interestingly, it says caravans as well. The reviews are worth reading, give an indication of what the Club could face /have faced with any parking the wrong side of the Site barrier. The last Traveller invasion we go mixed up with was at Exeter Racecourse. Three Traveller vans appeared overnight and pitched up on what was then used as LNA. There were at the time no barriers. The violence and intimidation of members and staff resulted in the site being emptied, with the excellent Club staff finding pitches elsewhere for members. The police were to put it mildly, pathetic. The Site now has barriers, but LNA area is now just a general bit of Racecourse parking.....good luck with that being safe!

https://www.searchforsites.co.uk/marker.php?id=23822

 

Tinwheeler replied on 13/03/2019 13:18

Posted on 13/03/2019 11:48 by rayjsj

Why ? they are mostly standing empty ? they COULD be generating capital for the site.

Strictly max 2 nights stay at a reduced rate, not JUST for Motorhomes, Caravans too. Great when breaking up a long journey, AND means pitches onsite can be freed up from single night stayers.

Just a thought.

Posted on 13/03/2019 13:18

It’s been discussed in this thread, Ray, and people made the point that anyone booked on a 'proper' pitch who is delayed could turn up after 8pm expecting to use LNA only to find no room at the inn.

I suggest that one night stayers on sites probably far outnumber the capacity of LNA/nighthalt pitches.

young thomas replied on 13/03/2019 13:28

Posted on 13/03/2019 11:48 by rayjsj

Why ? they are mostly standing empty ? they COULD be generating capital for the site.

Strictly max 2 nights stay at a reduced rate, not JUST for Motorhomes, Caravans too. Great when breaking up a long journey, AND means pitches onsite can be freed up from single night stayers.

Just a thought.

Posted on 13/03/2019 13:28

Ray, I agree...

with an ANPR system (very commonly used these days) the late arrival (with a booking ref/number plate) could just pass straight through the barrier and onto their pitch, no need to be signed in till next morning, freeing up the LNA for more useful dutieswink

if kept on the LNA I'll wager there will be cars/MH who have been out for the night returning to the site much later than 'the late arrival'...

if they can come into site (albeit with a card at present) why couldn't a late arrival provided there was a little more modern technology employed.

almost every site we've used this break (10 weeks) has ANPR systems and that's third world Iberiawink

JVB66 replied on 13/03/2019 13:33

Posted on 13/03/2019 13:28 by young thomas

Ray, I agree...

with an ANPR system (very commonly used these days) the late arrival (with a booking ref/number plate) could just pass straight through the barrier and onto their pitch, no need to be signed in till next morning, freeing up the LNA for more useful dutieswink

if kept on the LNA I'll wager there will be cars/MH who have been out for the night returning to the site much later than 'the late arrival'...

if they can come into site (albeit with a card at present) why couldn't a late arrival provided there was a little more modern technology employed.

almost every site we've used this break (10 weeks) has ANPR systems and that's third world Iberiawink

Posted on 13/03/2019 13:33

Almost every site?undecided

Cornersteady replied on 13/03/2019 14:08

Posted on 13/03/2019 13:28 by young thomas

Ray, I agree...

with an ANPR system (very commonly used these days) the late arrival (with a booking ref/number plate) could just pass straight through the barrier and onto their pitch, no need to be signed in till next morning, freeing up the LNA for more useful dutieswink

if kept on the LNA I'll wager there will be cars/MH who have been out for the night returning to the site much later than 'the late arrival'...

if they can come into site (albeit with a card at present) why couldn't a late arrival provided there was a little more modern technology employed.

almost every site we've used this break (10 weeks) has ANPR systems and that's third world Iberiawink

Posted on 13/03/2019 14:08

does it recognize foreign number plates? (serious question, just interested)

young thomas replied on 13/03/2019 14:25

Posted on 13/03/2019 14:25

the ones we've been on recognise all nationalities of plates....locals and Brits, Germans, French, Dutch et all.....why wouldn't they?

replied on 13/03/2019 14:38

Posted on 13/03/2019 14:25 by young thomas

the ones we've been on recognise all nationalities of plates....locals and Brits, Germans, French, Dutch et all.....why wouldn't they?

Posted on 13/03/2019 14:38

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young thomas replied on 13/03/2019 15:33

Posted on 13/03/2019 15:33

I can't afford a personal plate, David wink.....in fact, someone's already got the one I need......however, we should get in OK, thensmile

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