So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Takethedogalong replied on 12/03/2019 10:52

Posted on 12/03/2019 10:52

We all tour differently. We all make choices. Not everything about membership suits us, but we don’t constantly bang on about how much nicer it is elsewhere. I don’t need to be convinced there are some gorgeous locations, lovely sites, different prices, different methods of doing things elsewhere.

But the two touring Clubs in this country represent a very unique model. It suits a few hundred thousand people to be members, taking advantage of what is on offer, embracing the huge variety of sites, in the main getting more than their money back on membership. Those that don’t feel they do, then they look elsewhere. There are plenty of options. Get together, form a lobby group, push LAs to put in night stops, some are already doing it up here as I pointed out early in this thread. 

Understanding that everything the Club does requires permission, sometimes from landowners, sometimes via the Planning Restrictions makes altering things and putting in different facilities costly. Doing it for a small if vocal section of the membership, whose main interests lie overseas, doesn’t add up to good value for money in the eyes of the vast majority of members. I won’t comment on none members pushing for changes.

 

GVD replied on 12/03/2019 11:57

Posted on 12/03/2019 11:57

Lets go back to caravanners and motorhomers. Lot easier and less quibble. Those that do do, those that don't..don't

Navigateur replied on 12/03/2019 12:22

Posted on 12/03/2019 12:22

I think from reading this and similar threads we need to be considering three categories now.  Trailer (or towbar) caravanners (established 1907), motor caravanners (established 1967) and a recent third category of people who want the benefits but wish to be dissociated from caravanns.

Takethedogalong replied on 12/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 12/03/2019 12:44

This caravanner, and motorhomer doesn’t agree. The welcome and facilities, and price are the same regardless of which we choose to use.

Club missed a huge opportunity in adding “ Motorhome” to name. Should have gone for Touring Club of GB. Inclusive to everyone, including tents. Which have been welcome on some Club Sites a lot longer than some folks would think. 😂

Tinwheeler replied on 12/03/2019 12:48

Posted on 12/03/2019 12:48

"…and a recent third category of people who want the benefits but wish to be dissociated from caravanns."

Or wish to be disassociated from the club.

Cornersteady replied on 12/03/2019 13:08

Posted on 12/03/2019 10:52 by Takethedogalong

We all tour differently. We all make choices. Not everything about membership suits us, but we don’t constantly bang on about how much nicer it is elsewhere. I don’t need to be convinced there are some gorgeous locations, lovely sites, different prices, different methods of doing things elsewhere.

But the two touring Clubs in this country represent a very unique model. It suits a few hundred thousand people to be members, taking advantage of what is on offer, embracing the huge variety of sites, in the main getting more than their money back on membership. Those that don’t feel they do, then they look elsewhere. There are plenty of options. Get together, form a lobby group, push LAs to put in night stops, some are already doing it up here as I pointed out early in this thread. 

Understanding that everything the Club does requires permission, sometimes from landowners, sometimes via the Planning Restrictions makes altering things and putting in different facilities costly. Doing it for a small if vocal section of the membership, whose main interests lie overseas, doesn’t add up to good value for money in the eyes of the vast majority of members. I won’t comment on none members pushing for changes.

 

Posted on 12/03/2019 13:08

good post, agree with all.

MikeyA replied on 12/03/2019 13:53

Posted on 12/03/2019 12:44 by Takethedogalong

This caravanner, and motorhomer doesn’t agree. The welcome and facilities, and price are the same regardless of which we choose to use.

Club missed a huge opportunity in adding “ Motorhome” to name. Should have gone for Touring Club of GB. Inclusive to everyone, including tents. Which have been welcome on some Club Sites a lot longer than some folks would think. 😂

Posted on 12/03/2019 13:53

Can you imagine the numbers of views, for and against, if they amalgamated with the Camping and Caravanning club to become totally inclusive? - I for one would welcome it.

DaisyK1 replied on 12/03/2019 21:32

Posted on 12/03/2019 21:32

Late night arrivals are strictly for that purpose. TO  give a place for a booked pitch where the arrival has been delayed by unexpected circumstances And in no way should they be used FOR ANY OTHER REASON.

JayOutdoors replied on 13/03/2019 08:07

Posted on 12/03/2019 13:08 by Cornersteady

good post, agree with all.

Posted on 13/03/2019 08:07

Also agree with takethedogalong's post on the previous page at 10.52.

JayOutdoors replied on 13/03/2019 08:13

Posted on 12/03/2019 08:52 by Tinwheeler

I see polite point making, not scoring, PD. 

I assume those of you who want club feedback will be following the matter up directly with the club. 

Posted on 13/03/2019 08:13

Even though I posted hoping for clarity from HO I will not be "following the matter up directly with the club."  as you assumed.  My personal choice/reasons.

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