So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

replied on 11/03/2019 16:04

Posted on 11/03/2019 15:21 by Cornersteady

yes, to think that the club will respond (other than we have passed on your comments to... ) because a of a few posts on CT is rather naive?

How many regular posters are these on CT? out of how many Ct members? out of how many members?, out of how many who use sites?

I think the club would be incredibly irresponsible if it based its decisions based on CT rather than all the thousands who use club sites and are completely happy (including all those MHs) 

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Cornersteady replied on 11/03/2019 16:08

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:08

Why when there are so many CL and other 'night stops' are some so keen on stopping at a club sites?

Is it they want the club experience but at a much cheaper price? maybe and why not, we all want to get the best of things as cheap as possible (they must be the best otherwise logically why do they want to stay at club sites over the others like CLs night stops?).

But, but...they want the best of things while getting it at the expense of the rest of the membership and making other members more inconvenienced by taking up the car park, playing area/field... and denying others (MH and caravans) from booking a pitch so that their touring lifestyle can be achieved. They are selfish and they think that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many (that only happens in Star Trek)

And then to justify all that inconvenience  and expense (to motor homers and caravaners) they claim it's to make the club more inclusive, that is just pure nonsense. It is just to get club sites on the cheap. Has to be, otherwise use other non club sites to get what they want? 

young thomas replied on 11/03/2019 16:10

Posted on 11/03/2019 15:53 by moulesy

But for most of the year it is possible, by your own admission. 

So what you're really asking for is the club to take out (just a few) pitches just at the time of year when bookings are at their peak? Good luck with that one! Try suggesting it to Haven/Morris/Concierge! (The very sites you've long argued the club should be learning from and seeking to emulate) laughing

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:10

...and why shouldn't the club learn form some of those organaisations (which you quote with unswerving regularity) as they all have processes or standards in some areas which the club could learn from..

not everything they (or the club) does is right, but by emulating the best parts of all the competition will bring the overall standard up...

they aren't necessarily perfect, but the club has things it could learn from all these you quote...

but the crux of the OP, and of much of the arguing, is that Cc hasn't done much to embrace the way MHers tour...

ok, we've had the sop of the (loooong awaited) MHSP upgrades....still going...but no changes whatever (that i can see) that takes into account the fast turnaround 'quick visit and move' linear pattern of touring that is the very fabric of MH touring when compared to the 'pitch up for a week and explore (over and over) in the car' style that's typical of caravanners.

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young thomas replied on 11/03/2019 16:11

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:08 by Cornersteady

Why when there are so many CL and other 'night stops' are some so keen on stopping at a club sites?

Is it they want the club experience but at a much cheaper price? maybe and why not, we all want to get the best of things as cheap as possible (they must be the best otherwise logically why do they want to stay at club sites over the others like CLs night stops?).

But, but...they want the best of things while getting it at the expense of the rest of the membership and making other members more inconvenienced by taking up the car park, playing area/field... and denying others (MH and caravans) from booking a pitch so that their touring lifestyle can be achieved. They are selfish and they think that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many (that only happens in Star Trek)

And then to justify all that inconvenience  and expense (to motor homers and caravaners) they claim it's to make the club more inclusive, that is just pure nonsense. It is just to get club sites on the cheap. Has to be, otherwise use other non club sites to get what they want? 

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:11

what's the 'club experience'?undecided

Cornersteady replied on 11/03/2019 16:12

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:04 by

How do you know that thousands are happy?  

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:12

winding up time again DD?

so you agree with BB that club sites are full of people who aren't savvy enough to know they are better, or even as he says maybe they are apprehensive about going elsewhere?

they are happy to book, happy to return. What more proof do you need?

moulesy replied on 11/03/2019 16:18

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:18

"...but no changes whatever (that i can see) that takes into account the fast turnaround 'quick visit and move' linear pattern of touring that is the very fabric of MH touring "

Are you speaking for yourself, BB? I see little evidence of that sort of "fabric of MH touring" being advocated by more than a very small number on here! I don't suppose you're willing to give an estimate of the proportion of club MHers  (let alone MHers as a whole ) who would be touring the UK in that manner? (I know, going on and on and on.... but really some sort of answer would be nice! ) wink

replied on 11/03/2019 16:19

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:12 by Cornersteady

winding up time again DD?

so you agree with BB that club sites are full of people who aren't savvy enough to know they are better, or even as he says maybe they are apprehensive about going elsewhere?

they are happy to book, happy to return. What more proof do you need?

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young thomas replied on 11/03/2019 16:22

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:13 by Cornersteady

that's all you could pick on from that? Oh well job done thensmile

 

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:22

..it just struck me as an advertising strapline...wink

vapour....frown

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