So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

peedee replied on 11/03/2019 10:25

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:25

and wait to see if the club really will respond

Yes agree, I could easily add more but have been holding back to see if the Club responds.

peedee

moulesy replied on 11/03/2019 10:31

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:31

I'm getting a bit confused now (not difficult at the best of times!  laughing).

BB - are you saying now that you want "ad hoc touring" with the ability to be able to book to guarantee one of these quick turnaround pitches?

Well, since you can stay for 1 night on a club site and, for most of the year at most of the sitest there is always availability, it's surely possible to do this?

So if the club were to concede that you could go without EHU for a modest reduction in pitch fees, surely that would be just what you and Stuart O are looking for?

No need for elaborate reconstruction or pinching of areas which others value?

Rufs replied on 11/03/2019 10:38

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:38

So if the club were to concede that you could go without EHU for a modest reduction in pitch fees, surely that would be just what you and Stuart O are looking for?

and who would police this 24x7, not the wardens and not all MH/caravanners and yes you would have to offer this to caravanners, are honest Joe's.

by prolonging this discussion i feel we are only making it more difficult for the club to respond, difficult now to see the wood from the tree's. 

 

moulesy replied on 11/03/2019 10:42

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:38 by Rufs

So if the club were to concede that you could go without EHU for a modest reduction in pitch fees, surely that would be just what you and Stuart O are looking for?

and who would police this 24x7, not the wardens and not all MH/caravanners and yes you would have to offer this to caravanners, are honest Joe's.

by prolonging this discussion i feel we are only making it more difficult for the club to respond, difficult now to see the wood from the tree's. 

 

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:42

Just suggesting it in the spirit of compromise Rufs - though not really expecting it to satisfy those for whom nothing but 100% of what they want will do. And yes, it would be an option for any users. 

As for policing, I think it would have to be taken on trust (I don't believe there is a great deal of abuse of club facilities now, why should that be any different?) but if any transgressions were spotted then have membership withdrawn instantly.

Tinwheeler replied on 11/03/2019 10:59

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:59

Don’t worry, Rufs. The club will respond IF it wants to and the thread will eventually run it’s course. πŸ‘πŸ»

Cornersteady replied on 11/03/2019 15:21

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:59 by Tinwheeler

Don’t worry, Rufs. The club will respond IF it wants to and the thread will eventually run it’s course. πŸ‘πŸ»

Posted on 11/03/2019 15:21

yes, to think that the club will respond (other than we have passed on your comments to... ) because a of a few posts on CT is rather naive?

How many regular posters are these on CT? out of how many Ct members? out of how many members?, out of how many who use sites?

I think the club would be incredibly irresponsible if it based its decisions based on CT rather than all the thousands who use club sites and are completely happy (including all those MHs) 

young thomas replied on 11/03/2019 15:40

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:31 by moulesy

I'm getting a bit confused now (not difficult at the best of times!  laughing).

BB - are you saying now that you want "ad hoc touring" with the ability to be able to book to guarantee one of these quick turnaround pitches?

Well, since you can stay for 1 night on a club site and, for most of the year at most of the sitest there is always availability, it's surely possible to do this?

So if the club were to concede that you could go without EHU for a modest reduction in pitch fees, surely that would be just what you and Stuart O are looking for?

No need for elaborate reconstruction or pinching of areas which others value?

Posted on 11/03/2019 15:40

..but it's not that easy to tour in that manner during the summer... everyone seems to book well in advance...wink

but booking everything in advance, while guaranteeing a pitch, makes for a pretty boring tour...doing exactly what was on the 'plan'...

alright for some, I guess...

bit, these days, theres no provision for the 'traditional' swerve left or right, go anywhere vanning...

my point is that, with just a few pitches set aside from the 'book a year ahead' system, impromptu touring (on cc sites, and in the spirit of the club and its declared MH inclusivity) would at least have a chance...

young thomas replied on 11/03/2019 15:52

Posted on 11/03/2019 09:32 by Navigateur

if full, find another, there's one round the corner..

And just where is this corner then? 

I understand from the map supplied by the Club that there are a very few places in deep south-west England where the Club has sites in close proximity where a member might be able to drive around of an evening in increasing desperation as there is repeatedly "no room at the inn" but that is not something I would want as part of my touring experience. Especially day after day.

Posted on 11/03/2019 15:52

...but, we are not all the same....

it may be that someone has to revert to a CL/CS, britstop site, commercial, pub, car park, wild camp, the other club or whatever...but those who are used to pitching up away from caravan club sites (certainly overseas) won't be fazed by this...

moulesy replied on 11/03/2019 15:53

Posted on 11/03/2019 15:53

But for most of the year it is possible, by your own admission. 

So what you're really asking for is the club to take out (just a few) pitches just at the time of year when bookings are at their peak? Good luck with that one! Try suggesting it to Haven/Morris/Concierge! (The very sites you've long argued the club should be learning from and seeking to emulate) laughing

young thomas replied on 11/03/2019 15:58

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:38 by Rufs

So if the club were to concede that you could go without EHU for a modest reduction in pitch fees, surely that would be just what you and Stuart O are looking for?

and who would police this 24x7, not the wardens and not all MH/caravanners and yes you would have to offer this to caravanners, are honest Joe's.

by prolonging this discussion i feel we are only making it more difficult for the club to respond, difficult now to see the wood from the tree's. 

 

Posted on 11/03/2019 15:58

we seem to be 'policed' well enough when choosing EHU (or not) over here....also, we know exactly what's been used if we do choose it as all sites (even stand alone ones) seem to able to install meters without going under or forcing guests away....

 

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