So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

young thomas replied on 11/03/2019 16:25

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:18 by moulesy

"...but no changes whatever (that i can see) that takes into account the fast turnaround 'quick visit and move' linear pattern of touring that is the very fabric of MH touring "

Are you speaking for yourself, BB? I see little evidence of that sort of "fabric of MH touring" being advocated by more than a very small number on here! I don't suppose you're willing to give an estimate of the proportion of club MHers  (let alone MHers as a whole ) who would be touring the UK in that manner? (I know, going on and on and on.... but really some sort of answer would be nice! ) wink

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:25

you've harped on about this for ages...how can anyone (without taking statistics) know this sort of thing....

i certainly haven't done any sort of polling, so how can I give you an answer...

if it makes you feel any better I could say, I've only spoken to one person about this and he does the same as me so 100% of people polled tour like I do....undecided

replied on 11/03/2019 16:35

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:10 by young thomas

...and why shouldn't the club learn form some of those organaisations (which you quote with unswerving regularity) as they all have processes or standards in some areas which the club could learn from..

not everything they (or the club) does is right, but by emulating the best parts of all the competition will bring the overall standard up...

they aren't necessarily perfect, but the club has things it could learn from all these you quote...

but the crux of the OP, and of much of the arguing, is that Cc hasn't done much to embrace the way MHers tour...

ok, we've had the sop of the (loooong awaited) MHSP upgrades....still going...but no changes whatever (that i can see) that takes into account the fast turnaround 'quick visit and move' linear pattern of touring that is the very fabric of MH touring when compared to the 'pitch up for a week and explore (over and over) in the car' style that's typical of caravanners.

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:35

...and why shouldn't the club learn form some of those organaisations (which you quote with unswerving regularity) as they all have processes or standards in some areas which the club could learn from..

I did not realise that it was Moulesy that kept quoting about other organisations. Doubtless the CC watches the opposition. 

not everything they (or the club) does is right, but by emulating the best parts of all the competition will bring the overall standard up...

I would have thought that, over the years, it is the opposition that has emulated the club and now concentrates on what its core membership requires.

they aren't necessarily perfect, but the club has things it could learn from all these you quote...

Indeed they are not perfect and as I said the CC doubtless observes.

but the crux of the OP, and of much of the arguing, is that Cc hasn't done much to embrace the way MHers tour...

ok, we've had the sop of the (loooong awaited) MHSP upgrades....still going...but no changes whatever (that i can see) that takes into account the fast turnaround 'quick visit and move' linear pattern of touring that is the very fabric of MH touring when compared to the 'pitch up for a week and explore (over and over) in the car' style that's typical of caravanners

Not sure of the fabric of MH touring in the UK as the sites (CC, private and recently the C&CC) that I use I rarely see evidence of these MH users moving any more frequently than the caravanners overall.

 

 

replied on 11/03/2019 16:37

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:25 by young thomas

you've harped on about this for ages...how can anyone (without taking statistics) know this sort of thing....

i certainly haven't done any sort of polling, so how can I give you an answer...

if it makes you feel any better I could say, I've only spoken to one person about this and he does the same as me so 100% of people polled tour like I do....undecided

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:37

So, put simply, you have no idea what you are talking about apart from knowing what you want.

Cornersteady replied on 11/03/2019 16:38

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:25 by young thomas

you've harped on about this for ages...how can anyone (without taking statistics) know this sort of thing....

i certainly haven't done any sort of polling, so how can I give you an answer...

if it makes you feel any better I could say, I've only spoken to one person about this and he does the same as me so 100% of people polled tour like I do....undecided

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:38

harped onundecided

Thought you didn't like people being rude BB? 

moulesy replied on 11/03/2019 16:38

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:25 by young thomas

you've harped on about this for ages...how can anyone (without taking statistics) know this sort of thing....

i certainly haven't done any sort of polling, so how can I give you an answer...

if it makes you feel any better I could say, I've only spoken to one person about this and he does the same as me so 100% of people polled tour like I do....undecided

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:38

"Harped on" - now isn't that one of those phrases you've  objected to in the past? surprised

Anyway, it's good to have made it clear that  the sort of "fabric of MH touring" you're advocating is based on a sample of ....er.... 2 people! undecided

Cornersteady replied on 11/03/2019 16:39

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:35 by

...and why shouldn't the club learn form some of those organaisations (which you quote with unswerving regularity) as they all have processes or standards in some areas which the club could learn from..

I did not realise that it was Moulesy that kept quoting about other organisations. Doubtless the CC watches the opposition. 

not everything they (or the club) does is right, but by emulating the best parts of all the competition will bring the overall standard up...

I would have thought that, over the years, it is the opposition that has emulated the club and now concentrates on what its core membership requires.

they aren't necessarily perfect, but the club has things it could learn from all these you quote...

Indeed they are not perfect and as I said the CC doubtless observes.

but the crux of the OP, and of much of the arguing, is that Cc hasn't done much to embrace the way MHers tour...

ok, we've had the sop of the (loooong awaited) MHSP upgrades....still going...but no changes whatever (that i can see) that takes into account the fast turnaround 'quick visit and move' linear pattern of touring that is the very fabric of MH touring when compared to the 'pitch up for a week and explore (over and over) in the car' style that's typical of caravanners

Not sure of the fabric of MH touring in the UK as the sites (CC, private and recently the C&CC) that I use I rarely see evidence of these MH users moving any more frequently than the caravanners overall.

 

 

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:39

+1 to all

replied on 11/03/2019 16:39

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:11 by

CC Ltd does not have a culture of trust.  Over here we pay in arrears, or monthly for long stays.  Can you imagine that on CC Ltd site 😎.

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:39

I can't imagine that on many mainstream sites but with CC refunds for early departure are possible

Cornersteady replied on 11/03/2019 16:42

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:37 by

So, put simply, you have no idea what you are talking about apart from knowing what you want.

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:42

A huge +1 for that

replied on 11/03/2019 16:46

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:11 by young thomas

what's the 'club experience'?undecided

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:46

You have used club sites and have your own experience. It seems that you wish to keep using them but would prefer to do it for a cheaper price.  So what is your club experience 

moulesy replied on 11/03/2019 16:48

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:37 by

So, put simply, you have no idea what you are talking about apart from knowing what you want.

Posted on 11/03/2019 16:48

A bit unfair. Don't forget that "one other", ET ! laughing

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