So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

young thomas replied on 10/03/2019 21:26

Posted on 10/03/2019 21:26

but StuartO may not be in C&CC and its his OP I am supporting...

yes, I can do some unplanned touring with them on their THS sites, but im also a member of this club and I'd like to see them doing a bit more for the impromtu touring element of the club...the sort of thing we intrepid MHers are famed forwink

Im sure touring means something different to different folk, but to me it doesn't mean pre-planning every day...we like to change direction, linger or move on early....

with THS sites this is easy to do but CC has no similar system which is why I agree with Stuart....

however, I've already said I don't believe this will be acheived with new sites, rather a change in the current offering.

 

replied on 10/03/2019 22:10

Posted on 10/03/2019 22:10

m also a member of this club and I'd like to see them doing a bit more for the impromtu touring element of the club.

You are welcome to call impromtu at any CC site (although I would telephone on touie at least). If there is space you will be more than welcome. 

young thomas replied on 11/03/2019 07:53

Posted on 10/03/2019 22:10 by

m also a member of this club and I'd like to see them doing a bit more for the impromtu touring element of the club.

You are welcome to call impromtu at any CC site (although I would telephone on touie at least). If there is space you will be more than welcome. 

Posted on 11/03/2019 07:53

agree Alan, but if touring here between early June and mid August, as we do, sites will inevitibly be booked....especially weekends.

unplanned touring can be hard work if that's the case....

if a few pitches we only available to be booked (say) 24/48 hrs in advance and had a max stay of 24/48 hrs this would mean a very high turnover with likely availability..

again, if they're booked, they're booked (like any other pitch) but it gives  those informally touring a much better chance of picking up a pitch....

yes, we could all sit down with a diary and a map (as you do) at the back end of one year and have everything planned out.....but I prefer a bit of spontenaiety, route changing, duration changing, whatever...and I'll be 'somewhere else' touring there, not planning next year's line up of cc sites.

i realise this isn't for everyone, but, given a better chance to tour in this way would suit some over the 'book everything months in advance' process which is pretty well essential under the current system.

as a result, althpugh we do use some club sites (with pals) and CLs etc, we also use other forms of touring, with other providers, as our own club doesn't provide the same flexibility.....IMV anyway.

replied on 11/03/2019 08:04

Posted on 11/03/2019 08:04

as a result, we use other forms of touring, with other providers, as our own club doesn't provide the same flexibility.....IMV anyway.

I doubt that there are many mainstream providers that have a system where you cannot book earlier than 48 hours ahead in mainland UK. Are there? 

 

 

young thomas replied on 11/03/2019 08:49

Posted on 11/03/2019 08:49

...but that's the whole point....Stuart is suggesting the club takes the bull by the horns as there is so little of this type of provision here, and that the club has trumpeted its 'Motorhoming' affinity...

i wonder if the club will ever come up with an innovation ahead of the competition? to me, it's certainly not an innovator.

the continent provides this type of facility without the need to book, and if full, find another, there's one round the corner...but it's rarely an issue.

if there were (say) three or so quick turnaround pitches at most sites, you might be able to go on to the next one (if you didn't want to use a full fat pitch).

hence my comment about enabling booking (something not normally associated with this type of offering).

...and where chargeable (as these would obviously be) a card, a vehicle number or whatever to get through the barrier...

its not physically difficult to implement, it's done all over Europe in this way, it just needs the understanding and the desire...

the land and other infrastructure is (pretty much) already there...but the 'ethos' of casual touring has got lost amongst the 'must book' culture.

replied on 11/03/2019 09:00

Posted on 11/03/2019 09:00

if there were (say) three or so quick turnaround pitches at most sites, you might be able to go on to the next one (if you didn't want to use a full fat pitch).

So you are still talking about pitches that, in some way, don't meet CC standards that you would wish to see installed on CC sites just for those that can't find anywhere better. Are you still talking of using the site car parks? 

Would these 'semi skimmed' pitches that you desire come with the CC recognised fire gaps and EHU or would they be reserved for thrill seekers who also did not need EHU?

When you said'as a result, we use other forms of touring, with other providers, as our own club doesn't provide the same flexibility.....IMV anyway.' I, not unnaturally,assumed that the other forms of touring offered by other providers did. 

Navigateur replied on 11/03/2019 09:32

Posted on 11/03/2019 09:32

if full, find another, there's one round the corner..

And just where is this corner then? 

I understand from the map supplied by the Club that there are a very few places in deep south-west England where the Club has sites in close proximity where a member might be able to drive around of an evening in increasing desperation as there is repeatedly "no room at the inn" but that is not something I would want as part of my touring experience. Especially day after day.

replied on 11/03/2019 09:45

Posted on 11/03/2019 09:45

When I have toured in such a way at peak times Navigateur I usually phoned the next desired site the day before moving so as to confirm a pitch for the next night. If a desired CC site was full after speaking to the site I would search and contact alternatives after asking the site if they knew of any nearby. When away for several weeks I have been known to book a CC site a week or so ahead for the busy Saturday night leaving flexibility in the interim period. 

Of course as I now move slower I tend not to want a two night stop etc as I am happy to move every 5 nights and also happy to book in advance after deciding what route I may desire. Would not suit some but suits me

Rufs replied on 11/03/2019 10:13

Posted on 11/03/2019 09:47 by huskydog

Wow , still going this thread cool

Posted on 11/03/2019 10:13

yes but it is about time we

 

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