So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

JVB66 replied on 07/03/2019 17:49

Posted on 07/03/2019 17:05 by Navigateur

estimate of only 30 percent of motorhomes owners are members of the the Club

I wonder what the percentage of people who own trailer caravans are members of this Club?

The manufacturers year on year publish figure for sales of new caravans, both trailer and motorised, but nowhere does there seem to be any figures for the number taken out of service each year.  We can't even rely on vehicle registration figures for motor caravans, though they do reflect the number entitled to be on the road, as I guess once it is not economic to to keep going with repairs for MOT tests there may still be many useful years left as a static somewhere.

Posted on 07/03/2019 17:49

If where we store our c/van is any sort of figure motor caravans are now about 25%_30%in store ,out of over 500 pitches and the majority seem to be used the same as c/vans,and as we are constantly out and in very few get much use as they seem to be always there

cyberyacht replied on 07/03/2019 17:51

Posted on 07/03/2019 17:51

At the risk of further muddying the waters, the objection to utilising LNA/car parking facilities on CAMC sites is partly driven by the 8pm cutoff for arrival. If it is primarily to restrict vehicle movements, how do MH's who have gone out for the day/evening access their 'paid for' pitch? Whilst I agree that vehicle movements into the small hours is to be deprecated, could not arrivals be allowed up to 10pm, possibly with formal check-in the following morning? That would release the LNA/car park for "aire- type use". Are we so set in our ways that it is anathema to 'think outside the box'?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 07/03/2019 17:57

Posted on 07/03/2019 17:57

You need to ask a warden if it’s practical, CY. I suspect new arrivals can only arrive when someone is on duty irrespective of the booking in process. 

Those who have gone out for the day already have their barrier cards but who’s there to let a 10pm arrival in?

replied on 07/03/2019 18:01

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:41 by peedee

so why inappropriately try to involve this club?

Nothing inappropiate about expressing an opinion which as a current member I am perfectly entiled to do.

peedee

Posted on 07/03/2019 18:01

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JVB66 replied on 07/03/2019 18:01

Posted on 07/03/2019 17:51 by cyberyacht

At the risk of further muddying the waters, the objection to utilising LNA/car parking facilities on CAMC sites is partly driven by the 8pm cutoff for arrival. If it is primarily to restrict vehicle movements, how do MH's who have gone out for the day/evening access their 'paid for' pitch? Whilst I agree that vehicle movements into the small hours is to be deprecated, could not arrivals be allowed up to 10pm, possibly with formal check-in the following morning? That would release the LNA/car park for "aire- type use". Are we so set in our ways that it is anathema to 'think outside the box'?

 

Posted on 07/03/2019 18:01

Who would open the ,as noted on more site the security barriers ,that the motor caravans if? going out would use their card/fob/code to re enter as the PVCon the pitch opposite us did at about 2130 last nightwink

young thomas replied on 07/03/2019 18:02

Posted on 06/03/2019 20:24 by JayOutdoors

Got back to reading through odd pages here.  This drew my attention.  Not sure what to make of it. Is this post based on knowledge or is it just a speculation.  May be interesting if someone from HO could comment/clarify on any part of BoleroBoy's post.  Or better still if BoleroBoy could comment/confirm which points (if any).are to come to fruition if indeed he has such information.

Posted on 07/03/2019 18:02

I think the person you should be talking to is JK, or perhaps sitting tight like the rest of us and see what his (to me) cryptic response was all about...

i just made some observations and the reply seemed to suggest (to me) that some of them weren't too wide of the mark...

but, again, the reply mentioned other wardens coming back to work soon and (perhaps) being briefed on some new (blue sky?) thinking.

of course, I'm making 2 and 2 add up to 300 or so...but purely based on JKs response....to which, you'll note, I replied 'intrigued' as I had no real idea what he was alluding to.

young thomas replied on 07/03/2019 18:07

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:36 by Cornersteady
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Posted on 07/03/2019 18:07

now, that's the second time you've been really personal today, and the third in recent times.....and, of course,wrong...as usual.

my daughter has never been on a cc site....

yes, I advocated cars being in car parks (away from the race track) but I know this doesn't happen, hence my question.

do you spend all day practicing being like you are or does it come naturally?

JVB66 replied on 07/03/2019 18:20

Posted on 07/03/2019 18:01 by

The headline question was "what did the club ever do for motorcaravanners?".  The answer is clearly nothing, zilch, nada, etc.; other than to waste about £3m changing its trading name of course.  It didn't even change its registered name 😕.  

 

Posted on 07/03/2019 18:20

For what seems the majority of motor caravanners that use this clubs. sites , with the on going purchase of run down sites and the amount of money it is costing to refurbish them and still upgrade existing sites, also as is posted so many times unable to book a pitch as sites being full, then it seems the it is catering for all types of LVs as per any inclusive members club

ATDel replied on 07/03/2019 18:21

Posted on 07/03/2019 18:01 by

The headline question was "what did the club ever do for motorcaravanners?".  The answer is clearly nothing, zilch, nada, etc.; other than to waste about £3m changing its trading name of course.  It didn't even change its registered name 😕.  

 

Posted on 07/03/2019 18:21

I believe it does for Motorhomes the same as it does for caravans, offers different types of pitches at set prices, why do you think you are so special driving a Motorhome rather than tugging a car.

if you want cheap with little services there are plenty of sites around which offer those a lot of CLs do CSs do go and park in a car park somewhere, oh Sorry you can’t use CLs as your not even a member but boy have you got some opinions

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